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> Can you elaborate a bit on “by default there’s more freedom on Windows” part? 1) You can download and install binaries without using an appstore and without
by csdvrx 3y ago
> Can you elaborate a bit on “by default there’s more freedom on Windows” part?
1) You can download and install binaries without using an appstore and without going to some settings.
2) You can install offline and create a login that's not tied to a Microsoft account (but this requires typing special commands).
3) You can then download binaries from their store without a login (ex: to get Windows Terminal)
4) You don't have to pay microsoft money if you want to make programs that run on Windows (ex: crosscompiling to a win32 target)
5) You can run Linux in WSL2 after typing a few commands on a default Windows install
6) If you don't like Linux, Microsoft gives away most of what you need to write code (but I guess XCode is like VSCode)
It's not much, but I enjoyed that freedom when I was using Windows (and I couldn't understand why people could accept to use a Mac!)
- jemmyw 3y ago1) you can do this on Mac, it's the default. 2) you can install macos without an iCloud login. No special commands needed, just "not now" 3) yeah this you cannot do. but other than xcode I don't actually get anything from the store because you don't need to 4) this is true for Mac, you only need to pay to get the binary signed. Does ms give you signing without paying? 5) WSL2 is a hypervisor run Linux. You can do that on Mac too, there's a few options but orbstack is the one I use, super nice. However, for command like stuff you don't need Linux because macos is Unix anyway so you can just install most stuff natively 6) you don't even need xcode you can use the GCC toolchains It seems pretty par for the course tbh except not being able to natively run unix tools on windows is a pita
- jemmyw 3y agoI'll add a 7) once I switched the default browser on a Mac I've never seen safari again. Windows kept trying to cram edge back down my throat.
- csdvrx 3y agoI understand you mean good, but Apple is less free. WSL2 is nice, but it's more than than- it's knowing that I have the choice (to go with Lenovo, Dell, HP etc) if say I hate the keyboard layout
- jemmyw 3y agoI never said Apple was more free. Although I think Windows is absolutely awful, an anti-user experience. I like Linux and I've run that on my home hardware since I was a teen. My work provides Apple computers. Hardware options aside, MacOS is a nicer experience than what Windows has become, and as to my points, I think it's also easier to install and use free software on it. I hated the keyboard on the previous mac I was given so I worked on my personal Dell machine. The difference in setup between MacOS and Linux is pretty minimal. The different to Windows is large and unkempt.