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It is a question of semantics and word choice really - pretty sure that if they had said "Login with your Google Account" instead of "Upgrade to Google+", the

It is a question of semantics and word choice really - pretty sure that if they had said "Login with your Google Account" instead of "Upgrade to Google+", the reaction would not have been as negative. All that the Upgrade to Google+ does is tie your Google account to Google+ - you don't have to follow anyone, post anything or fill out any details of you profile. So they could have just called it : We are tying / converting (not upgrading) your account to a Google+ account so you can Like the video.

option_greek 14y ago
I think most of the Google's PR debacles in past year have to do with poor wording and lack of proper information on privacy. When they omit things, people will assume the worst.
sp332 14y ago
In order to get a Google+ account, you have to give them a lot more information than you do to just get a normal Google account. And you have to use your real name or they'll disable you entire account - including email etc.
- jmsduran 14y ago
  Even with those safeguards, it is still possible to create a phony/spam G+ account. Asking for more information doesn't solve the problem, it simply forces the user to fabricate more information in the beginning during the sign up process.
  - ebiester 14y ago
    The user, however, doesn't know the consequences of subverting the form.
    - waqf 14y ago
      If they're an accomplished spammer they won't hesitate to experiment. After which it's yet another hoop which obstructs only the bona fide users.
    - Karunamon 14y ago
      The consequences are basically nil as long as you don't call yourself Clark Kent, Hometown: Krypton or similar.
- jrockway 14y ago
  And you have to use your real name or they'll disable you entire account - including email etc. No, not true.
- kelnos 14y ago
  And you have to use your real name or they'll disable you entire account - including email etc. No, they don't. They just suspend your G+ account. GMail is unaffected. Yes, there are stories of people getting both their G+ and GMail accounts suspended, but it was always for other reasons than not using a real name. One I recall was that a user was under 13, but hadn't entered his birthday until activating the G+ portion of his account, which triggered the GMail suspension. (Google doesn't allow under-13 users to have Google accounts since under US law there are extra requirements that Google doesn't want to deal with.)
gergles 14y ago
And the far bigger concern is that all of your "+1s" are completely public with no way to opt out of that. This was categorically not the case with "Likes" on YouTube.

option_greek 14y ago

I think most of the Google's PR debacles in past year have to do with poor wording and lack of proper information on privacy. When they omit things, people will assume the worst.

sp332 14y ago

In order to get a Google+ account, you have to give them a lot more information than you do to just get a normal Google account. And you have to use your real name or they'll disable you entire account - including email etc.

jmsduran 14y ago
Even with those safeguards, it is still possible to create a phony/spam G+ account. Asking for more information doesn't solve the problem, it simply forces the user to fabricate more information in the beginning during the sign up process.
- ebiester 14y ago
  The user, however, doesn't know the consequences of subverting the form.
  - waqf 14y ago
    If they're an accomplished spammer they won't hesitate to experiment. After which it's yet another hoop which obstructs only the bona fide users.
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    The consequences are basically nil as long as you don't call yourself Clark Kent, Hometown: Krypton or similar.
jrockway 14y ago
And you have to use your real name or they'll disable you entire account - including email etc. No, not true.
kelnos 14y ago
And you have to use your real name or they'll disable you entire account - including email etc. No, they don't. They just suspend your G+ account. GMail is unaffected. Yes, there are stories of people getting both their G+ and GMail accounts suspended, but it was always for other reasons than not using a real name. One I recall was that a user was under 13, but hadn't entered his birthday until activating the G+ portion of his account, which triggered the GMail suspension. (Google doesn't allow under-13 users to have Google accounts since under US law there are extra requirements that Google doesn't want to deal with.)

gergles 14y ago

And the far bigger concern is that all of your "+1s" are completely public with no way to opt out of that. This was categorically not the case with "Likes" on YouTube.