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Intel is a product of corporate cancer that is management consulting.

by lvl102 3y ago

pm90 3y ago
tbh that applies to all fortune 500 at this point
tru3_power 3y ago
What does this even mean? (not sarcastic)
- jbm 3y ago
  I worked at (American drink company in Japan) previously and saw what the poster may be referring to. Management Consulting sells ideas, many of them silly or not important that are marketed and packaged as era-defining. A manager who implements #FASHIONABLE_IDEA can look forward to upwards mobility, while boring, realistic, business-focused ideas from people in the trenches usually get ignored (unless you want a lateral transfer to a similar job). hashtag-collection-of-ideas is much easier to explain when the time comes for the next step up. This explains why you get insane things like Metaverse fashion shows that barely manage to look better than a liveleak beheading video. These sorts of things might seem like minor distractions, but getting these sorts of boondoggles up and running creates stress and drowns out other concerns. Once the idea is deployed, the success or failure of the idea is of minimal importance, it must be /made/ successful so that $important_person can get their next job. These projects starve companies of morale, focus and resources. I recall the struggle for a ~USD $20k budget on a project to automate internal corporate systems, while some consultants received (much) more than 10 times that amount for a report that basically wound up in the bin. Oddly, this sort of corporate supplication to management consultants worked out for me (personally). I was a dev who wound up as a manager and was able to deliver projects internally, while other decent project managers could not get budget and wound up looking worse for something that wasn't their fault. I don't think any of the projects brought by management consultants really moved the needle in any meaningful way while I worked for any BigCos.
  - rrr_oh_man 3y ago
    Oh the PTSD... *twitch*
  - someguydave 3y ago
    It’s hard to believe that a manager can be effective if they literally cannot do the job of those they manage. I can imagine such folk turning to fads as an appeal to pseudo-expertise.
- yCombLinks 3y ago
  People come in on a short term basis. They don't know the company, the business, or the employees. They make long term decisions by applying generic and simplified metrics without deep understanding.
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Intel is a product of corporate cancer that is management consulting.

by lvl102 3y ago

Intel is a product of corporate cancer that is management consulting.

pm90 3y ago

tbh that applies to all fortune 500 at this point

tru3_power 3y ago

What does this even mean? (not sarcastic)

jbm 3y ago
I worked at (American drink company in Japan) previously and saw what the poster may be referring to. Management Consulting sells ideas, many of them silly or not important that are marketed and packaged as era-defining. A manager who implements #FASHIONABLE_IDEA can look forward to upwards mobility, while boring, realistic, business-focused ideas from people in the trenches usually get ignored (unless you want a lateral transfer to a similar job). hashtag-collection-of-ideas is much easier to explain when the time comes for the next step up. This explains why you get insane things like Metaverse fashion shows that barely manage to look better than a liveleak beheading video. These sorts of things might seem like minor distractions, but getting these sorts of boondoggles up and running creates stress and drowns out other concerns. Once the idea is deployed, the success or failure of the idea is of minimal importance, it must be /made/ successful so that $important_person can get their next job. These projects starve companies of morale, focus and resources. I recall the struggle for a ~USD $20k budget on a project to automate internal corporate systems, while some consultants received (much) more than 10 times that amount for a report that basically wound up in the bin. Oddly, this sort of corporate supplication to management consultants worked out for me (personally). I was a dev who wound up as a manager and was able to deliver projects internally, while other decent project managers could not get budget and wound up looking worse for something that wasn't their fault. I don't think any of the projects brought by management consultants really moved the needle in any meaningful way while I worked for any BigCos.
- rrr_oh_man 3y ago
  Oh the PTSD... *twitch*
- someguydave 3y ago
  It’s hard to believe that a manager can be effective if they literally cannot do the job of those they manage. I can imagine such folk turning to fads as an appeal to pseudo-expertise.
yCombLinks 3y ago
People come in on a short term basis. They don't know the company, the business, or the employees. They make long term decisions by applying generic and simplified metrics without deep understanding.

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