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Meanwhile, I can pay the ice cream vendor in Copacabana Beach using pix and the transaction is confirmed on their device before I even lift my finger from the s

by fmobus 3y ago

Meanwhile, I can pay the ice cream vendor in Copacabana Beach using pix and the transaction is confirmed on their device before I even lift my finger from the screen.

ghaff 3y ago
I'm fine with using whatever electronic transaction mechanism but a fair number of service people are not set up that way and I'm fine with just handing them a check.
rootusrootus 3y ago
Why do you think we don't have instant money transfer available in the US, just because in a pinch we can still write a check? These days a check is just a paper form of digital payment anyway, my bank never touches the actual checks that I receive.
dudul 3y ago
So? This is also possible in the US, I don't see the connection between the 2 examples.
- oh_sigh 3y ago
  What app do you recommend? The most common one is Venmo, but people don't realize it doesn't settle for a number of days after the transaction.
- fmobus 3y ago
  Is it really? How fast does it settle? Does it require an extra app and extra account? Is it guaranteed to be supported by any bank? Does it charge fees? Is it widely used and trusted by people? Seriously, I don't think people in this thread appreciate just how practical and efficient pix is. Adoption is essentially universal across the population, and we are talking about a poor country.
  - xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
    Yes? You can make transfers without an extra app or extra account that settle relatively "instantly" whether or not the banks have actually reconciled (as TFA alludes it's basically always some sort of credit). And this is true of many countries in the world, too! And many of those countries still use and support checks. There are a variety of systems in many countries, the key difference with Pix is that it is very modern and relatively mobile-first. There are not many other such systems in the world yet. How easy is it to pay without a phone? Or without internet? I regularly make payments in places where there is nearly zero cell signal. Pix charges fees, too, to merchants. Is Pix guaranteed to be supported by every bank? The mandate certainly doesn't seem to require it, but I'll take your word. I think the reason that people in this thread don't appear to "appreciate just how practical and efficient pix is" is simply because it's not very relevant. Sending and receiving money isn't particularly annoying in the US. Nor is accepting payments (merchant fees aside -- that's a whole different topic that I am sure patio11 has explored). I am sure that if Pix or something like it was widely available in the US, folks would be singing its praise too. But it's not particularly compelling when most people aren't even aware that something is or could be lacking in the current system.

by fmobus 3y ago

Meanwhile, I can pay the ice cream vendor in Copacabana Beach using pix and the transaction is confirmed on their device before I even lift my finger from the screen.

ghaff 3y ago

I'm fine with using whatever electronic transaction mechanism but a fair number of service people are not set up that way and I'm fine with just handing them a check.

rootusrootus 3y ago

Why do you think we don't have instant money transfer available in the US, just because in a pinch we can still write a check? These days a check is just a paper form of digital payment anyway, my bank never touches the actual checks that I receive.

dudul 3y ago

So? This is also possible in the US, I don't see the connection between the 2 examples.

oh_sigh 3y ago
What app do you recommend? The most common one is Venmo, but people don't realize it doesn't settle for a number of days after the transaction.
fmobus 3y ago
Is it really? How fast does it settle? Does it require an extra app and extra account? Is it guaranteed to be supported by any bank? Does it charge fees? Is it widely used and trusted by people? Seriously, I don't think people in this thread appreciate just how practical and efficient pix is. Adoption is essentially universal across the population, and we are talking about a poor country.
- xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
  Yes? You can make transfers without an extra app or extra account that settle relatively "instantly" whether or not the banks have actually reconciled (as TFA alludes it's basically always some sort of credit). And this is true of many countries in the world, too! And many of those countries still use and support checks. There are a variety of systems in many countries, the key difference with Pix is that it is very modern and relatively mobile-first. There are not many other such systems in the world yet. How easy is it to pay without a phone? Or without internet? I regularly make payments in places where there is nearly zero cell signal. Pix charges fees, too, to merchants. Is Pix guaranteed to be supported by every bank? The mandate certainly doesn't seem to require it, but I'll take your word. I think the reason that people in this thread don't appear to "appreciate just how practical and efficient pix is" is simply because it's not very relevant. Sending and receiving money isn't particularly annoying in the US. Nor is accepting payments (merchant fees aside -- that's a whole different topic that I am sure patio11 has explored). I am sure that if Pix or something like it was widely available in the US, folks would be singing its praise too. But it's not particularly compelling when most people aren't even aware that something is or could be lacking in the current system.