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"my liberty ends where your liberty starts" This true statement is irrelevant, since one person's seatbelt does not impact anyone else's liberty. "I don't lik

"my liberty ends where your liberty starts" This true statement is irrelevant, since one person's seatbelt does not impact anyone else's liberty. "I don't like cars anyway" is even less relevant.

em-bee 3y ago
please reread the other comments about the sideffects from accidents without seatbelts. then tell me why you think those sideeffects are irrelevant. and i didn't say i don't like cars. i said (maybe not very clearly): cars impact my freedom to move around. see my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39192495 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39192495 in particular read the linked discussion in how cars negatively impact peoples lives.
- jrflowers 3y ago
  Brian K White believes that his right for his body to be forcefully ejected from a vehicle and fatally strike an onlooker is obviously more important that a person’s right to exist in public (or in private) within launching distance of his corpse catapult. Alternatively he believes that refusing to wear a seat belt guarantees that a person stays inside a vehicle (through sheer force of liberty and grit) during an impact
  - Brian_K_White 3y ago
    Yes, those are both exactly what I believe, since that is exactly what I said. Nailed it.
    - jrflowers 3y ago
      Drat, I have been check mated! By simply declining to address the issue of what happens to a body after it clears the wind shield you have proven that this issue is theoretical and not practical Only a wise genius can simply gaze serenely at the moon when asked “does your right to murder people with your corpse rocket impinge on the rights of your human targets?” for only the enlightened know that answering it is a violation of the non aggression policy
jrflowers 3y ago
If I want to recreate the human slingshot from Hook and forcibly donate my cadaver to a Starbucks, it is morally wrong to attempt to stop me. My liberty ends in a paste on the asphalt, where someone else’s liberty to scrape it up begins.

"my liberty ends where your liberty starts" This true statement is irrelevant, since one person's seatbelt does not impact anyone else's liberty. "I don't like cars anyway" is even less relevant.

em-bee 3y ago

please reread the other comments about the sideffects from accidents without seatbelts. then tell me why you think those sideeffects are irrelevant. and i didn't say i don't like cars. i said (maybe not very clearly): cars impact my freedom to move around. see my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39192495 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39192495 in particular read the linked discussion in how cars negatively impact peoples lives.

jrflowers 3y ago
Brian K White believes that his right for his body to be forcefully ejected from a vehicle and fatally strike an onlooker is obviously more important that a person’s right to exist in public (or in private) within launching distance of his corpse catapult. Alternatively he believes that refusing to wear a seat belt guarantees that a person stays inside a vehicle (through sheer force of liberty and grit) during an impact
- Brian_K_White 3y ago
  Yes, those are both exactly what I believe, since that is exactly what I said. Nailed it.
  - jrflowers 3y ago
    Drat, I have been check mated! By simply declining to address the issue of what happens to a body after it clears the wind shield you have proven that this issue is theoretical and not practical Only a wise genius can simply gaze serenely at the moon when asked “does your right to murder people with your corpse rocket impinge on the rights of your human targets?” for only the enlightened know that answering it is a violation of the non aggression policy

jrflowers 3y ago

If I want to recreate the human slingshot from Hook and forcibly donate my cadaver to a Starbucks, it is morally wrong to attempt to stop me. My liberty ends in a paste on the asphalt, where someone else’s liberty to scrape it up begins.