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I'm pretty sure it's exactly how it works. If the NTSB was some sort of strict regulator who pushed ahead with recalling dangerous parts regardless of the risk

I'm pretty sure it's exactly how it works. If the NTSB was some sort of strict regulator who pushed ahead with recalling dangerous parts regardless of the risk and costs, they would have forced Toyota to commit to the recall announced today a decade ago. The risk of aging Takata airbags being explodey if moisture gets in has been a known issue for a very long time. I assume today's announcement represents some factor in the equation changing. Takata is caught up and can make lower volume parts again? There was an uptick in these older airbags exploding? Some other random political or economic factor? One thing that isn't new is the knowledge that these airbags are dangerous. (to be fair, I have no idea if the 2001 Camry's airbags might have used a completely different technology)

jacquesm 3y ago
Well, you're wrong. "A recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle, equipment, car seat, or tire creates an unreasonable safety risk or fails to meet minimum safety standards. Most decisions to conduct a recall and remedy a safety defect are made voluntarily by manufacturers prior to any involvement by NHTSA. Manufacturers are required to fix the problem by repairing it, replacing it, offering a refund, or in rare cases repurchasing the vehicle." https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls Section 3 lower on the page.
- justin66 3y ago
  Even the history of the Takata airbag saga alone is enough to illustrate that plenty of - generously - subjectivity or wiggle room is built into the application of the rules you're quoting on that page. If you were familiar with the history of the thing you'd know that the items which were recalled yesterday have been understood to be dangerous for over 20 years. The first study that showed this design tended to blow up came in the late nineties. Some sort of practical balance in an equation shifted to cause yesterday's recall. There wasn't a new engineering discovery made. Takata airbags using ammonium nitrate sometimes explode when they ignite! Something must be done! That you've apparently discounted the possibility an American regulatory agency might not be fully living up to its stated principles is adorable, however.

jacquesm 3y ago

Well, you're wrong. "A recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle, equipment, car seat, or tire creates an unreasonable safety risk or fails to meet minimum safety standards. Most decisions to conduct a recall and remedy a safety defect are made voluntarily by manufacturers prior to any involvement by NHTSA. Manufacturers are required to fix the problem by repairing it, replacing it, offering a refund, or in rare cases repurchasing the vehicle." https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls Section 3 lower on the page.

justin66 3y ago
Even the history of the Takata airbag saga alone is enough to illustrate that plenty of - generously - subjectivity or wiggle room is built into the application of the rules you're quoting on that page. If you were familiar with the history of the thing you'd know that the items which were recalled yesterday have been understood to be dangerous for over 20 years. The first study that showed this design tended to blow up came in the late nineties. Some sort of practical balance in an equation shifted to cause yesterday's recall. There wasn't a new engineering discovery made. Takata airbags using ammonium nitrate sometimes explode when they ignite! Something must be done! That you've apparently discounted the possibility an American regulatory agency might not be fully living up to its stated principles is adorable, however.