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I know it's v1, I know it's expensive, I know it's limited but I cannot wait to get my hands on it this Friday. Even with just 1 4k floating screen I think it

I know it's v1, I know it's expensive, I know it's limited but I cannot wait to get my hands on it this Friday. Even with just 1 4k floating screen I think it would be a winner for me but I'm also really excited to see what people come up with in VisionOS itself. I think for a while the sweet spot (for me) with be using a virtual monitor and a handful of VisionOS apps as well. Eventually I hope to be able to pull macOS windows out of a fixed box and arrange them wherever I want but I'm fully aware that might not be this year or even next year.

dmix 3y ago
Its coming out on Friday?
- joshstrange 3y ago
  Yes, February 2nd, this Friday.
wombat-man 3y ago
Well it's QHD not 4k. I don't think you'll be able to pull windows out of the mac screen, but apps you might need are in vision OS anyway like safari or messages. I think my dream would be dual 4k monitors, or maybe a double wide?
- joshstrange 3y ago
  Yeah, I think long-term I'd want a "confluence mode" (a la Parallels) or a large curved screen. Dual/Tri-screens would be fine too but I feel like we can do better with an infinite canvas (though "monitors" might make macOS apps play nicer).
- jojobas 3y ago
  It's a far cry. This thing is a little more that 4k for the entire field of view. Resolution required to render two 4k monitors at comfy distance is more than an order of magnitude away.
  - joshstrange 3y ago
    An important other aspect though is how much is visible. With foveated rendering does it matter if I have 50 4k monitors? As long as they aren't all in-focus and in-view at the same time? I'm not sure where the limitation is right now (if it's purely a software limitation) but my MBP runs 4 monitors right now and I'd put up with a cord (or two) plugged from my MBP to my AVP if I could have all my monitors in VR. I believe they are using AirPlay to give you the virtual desktop but 3-4 AP streams doesn't seem too crazy, but I don't know much about that.
    - jojobas 3y ago
      There's foveated rendering, but there isn't foveated physical resolution. With this cutting edge display resolution you can expect a 1-2 monitors QHD of comfortable angular size and that's it. You could have more out of view but that's your virtual displays. Then again, why exactly? Getting used to some heavy steamy gadget on your head at home/at work so you can also do that on a train? Get real. VR goggles always were a gimmick and will be a gimmick on coming decades. I'd bet we'll have non-visual brain datalink before we have non-gimmick VR.
  - MikusR 3y ago
    This thing is less than 4k for the entire fov.
- matt3210 3y ago
  It’s 5k with normal Mac scaling for ui similar to a Mac display… also, there is a proof of concept for bringing mac windows into the space
  - zaptrem 3y ago
    Can you link the PoC? I'm suprised someone hasn't built an app for this yet.

dmix 3y ago

Its coming out on Friday?

joshstrange 3y ago
Yes, February 2nd, this Friday.

wombat-man 3y ago

Well it's QHD not 4k. I don't think you'll be able to pull windows out of the mac screen, but apps you might need are in vision OS anyway like safari or messages. I think my dream would be dual 4k monitors, or maybe a double wide?

joshstrange 3y ago
Yeah, I think long-term I'd want a "confluence mode" (a la Parallels) or a large curved screen. Dual/Tri-screens would be fine too but I feel like we can do better with an infinite canvas (though "monitors" might make macOS apps play nicer).
jojobas 3y ago
It's a far cry. This thing is a little more that 4k for the entire field of view. Resolution required to render two 4k monitors at comfy distance is more than an order of magnitude away.
- joshstrange 3y ago
  An important other aspect though is how much is visible. With foveated rendering does it matter if I have 50 4k monitors? As long as they aren't all in-focus and in-view at the same time? I'm not sure where the limitation is right now (if it's purely a software limitation) but my MBP runs 4 monitors right now and I'd put up with a cord (or two) plugged from my MBP to my AVP if I could have all my monitors in VR. I believe they are using AirPlay to give you the virtual desktop but 3-4 AP streams doesn't seem too crazy, but I don't know much about that.
  - jojobas 3y ago
    There's foveated rendering, but there isn't foveated physical resolution. With this cutting edge display resolution you can expect a 1-2 monitors QHD of comfortable angular size and that's it. You could have more out of view but that's your virtual displays. Then again, why exactly? Getting used to some heavy steamy gadget on your head at home/at work so you can also do that on a train? Get real. VR goggles always were a gimmick and will be a gimmick on coming decades. I'd bet we'll have non-visual brain datalink before we have non-gimmick VR.
- MikusR 3y ago
  This thing is less than 4k for the entire fov.
matt3210 3y ago
It’s 5k with normal Mac scaling for ui similar to a Mac display… also, there is a proof of concept for bringing mac windows into the space
- zaptrem 3y ago
  Can you link the PoC? I'm suprised someone hasn't built an app for this yet.