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I'm currently taking courses with Udacity and Coursera, and I've noticed one huge difference between the two that I hope edX learns from: whereas the Coursera c
by muraiki 14y ago
I'm currently taking courses with Udacity and Coursera, and I've noticed one huge difference between the two that I hope edX learns from: whereas the Coursera class is structured like a traditional class online, Udacity's course designers seem to better understand and take advantage of the fact that the course is running in a web browser.
The difference is a bit difficult to explain. Both have videos, forums, and wikis. Udacity courses are set up as short videos punctuated with many questions and mini assignments (running in an in-browser Python IDE), along with larger homework projects. Also, the forums are continually monitored and new videos are added to clarify concepts that students are struggling with.
In contrast, the Coursera course I'm taking (AI) has longer videos (6-20 minutes) of the instructor mumbling as he draws over and over on ever increasingly confusing Powerpoint slides. Sometimes a video will have one multiple choice question, other times the video will not have any questions at all. The worst part is that only once has the video gone on to explain the question. So if a student has a problem understanding the question, they will have to resort to the forums. There's no follow-up, unlike the questions on Udacity. At the end of each section (about an hours worth of videos) students can take a five question quiz. Granted, the feedback on the quizzes are a lot better -- but it's a lot to expect an hour of instruction to be reinforced by a mere five questions.
Basically, the Coursera course is taught as if I was sitting in a class watching an instructor draw on a Powerpoint -- the fact that it's running in a web browser and can provide a different method of teaching seems to be lost on the instructor.
Granted, this might be a critique of the instructor more than of Coursera itself -- I'm only taking a single course from them, whereas I'm taking two on Udacity. But Udacity seems to understand that you can't just take the experience of sitting in a classroom and put it online: you have to understand that this is a new medium that allows new methods of teaching.
To conclude this rambling post (sorry, I didn't know how to explain what I'm feeling as a student more concisely), if these online course ventures that are popping up all over the place are going to succeed,
they are going to have to use the medium of the browser to its fullest: and in so doing, I think they will have to compete with traditional universities. That's what worries me when edX says the online classes will supplement the in-college experience: I think that you're going to have to beat the college experience to succeed in this market.
- dantheman 14y agoI've been looking at the courses from both and personally I like the Coursera set up much better - the constant interruption by questions makes it a lot less engaging, imho.
- bgilroy26 14y agoI agree, Udacity is definitely not an unqualified, clear winner. I like the Coursera 8-10-15 minute videos a lot better than the 2-3 minute videos from Udacity.
- brunov 14y agoOn the other hand, I find the Coursera classes much better in quality. At least the CS ones seem to have a more formal and rigorous tone, which is something that I value more than presentation. I agree though, the Udacity lectures are more engaging.
- muraiki 14y agoI don't know enough about programming to make a comment on the quality, and I should have mentioned that in my initial post. I was trying to convey my experience of the teaching in each course, not the quality of the material. But yes, from what I've taken in the AI class so far they are definitely teaching Computer Science. Udacity so far seems to be "applied programming" with a bit of helpful CS here and there.
- evoxed 14y agoHave you taken either of the CS101 courses? Udacity's has already wrapped up and started a new 'hexamester' though Coursera's has just started. I prefer the Coursera lectures generally but with CS101 at least I think Udacity was much more engaging and challenging for beginners. So far the assignments on Coursera CS101 assignments feel pretty lackluster compared to the other classes (unless I've become unwittingly jaded, in which case I'd still like to hear what others think).
- MaxGabriel 14y agoI agree strongly with these observations, and have found it to hold true over Udacity's Robotics AI, Web Apps, Programming Languages, and Design courses, and over portions of Coursera's Machine learning and NLP classes. Edit: and I also agree with Brunov, Udacity courses are not mathematically rigorous.