> Is there a competent well-known group implementing things like Asahi for Mac? Not that I'm aware of. Pine's model seems to be "Lob hardware over the fence w

> Is there a competent well-known group implementing things like Asahi for Mac? Not that I'm aware of. Pine's model seems to be "Lob hardware over the fence with some limited but reasonable documentation and hope everyone else takes care of it" - which has worked surprisingly well for things like the PineBook Pro. But phones are a lot more complex, as there are more moving parts, and a lot of those moving parts are almost entirely black boxes to people who hack on them. Cell modems, audio pipelines, all of that is rather different on a phone, and those seem to be the main problem points on the PinePhones. They're a usable enough wifi pocket computer with poor battery life, but working in the way one expects a phone to work is a challenge. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what's going on with Pine right now. All their information wikis and communities are offline and have been offline for over a week now: https://pine64.org/2024/01/21/outage_january_21/ https://pine64.org/2024/01/21/outage_january_21/ It doesn't give me great hope in their long term viability right now that they've lost all their community facing infrastructure, which is literally the only thing that makes their products workable.