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Same for me but there was a single sentence that more than halved my interest in buying this: you can’t have multiple floating windows of MacOS. It’s all in one

Same for me but there was a single sentence that more than halved my interest in buying this: you can’t have multiple floating windows of MacOS. It’s all in one single floating window. This is by far the biggest flaw for me, and a really stupid one. Hopefully a software update changes this

_xnmw 3y ago
But you can have one floating macOS window (for your workhorse app) and then infinite other visionOS and iPadOS windows. For me, that’s good enough, most of my other monitors are just Safari tabs or something that can be replaced with iPad apps anyway. Anyway the fact that you can continue to use your phone with the headset on means you could theoretically use another computer with external monitors for desktop apps while having lots of extra virtual space for iPad/Safari apps.
hbn 3y ago
The 1 monitor cap and the fact that it's only a 1440p resolution makes me think it's a bandwidth/latency limitation, I wouldn't hold my breath on software fixing it.
- janeshchhabra 3y ago
  Yeah, you would likely need a hardwired connection over thunderbolt to do more. It's unlikely such a connection is possible with the specs today (only usb-c is on battery, and unsure if that can transfer data).
- 93po 3y ago
  Fair point but I wish they’d allow more when I don’t need perfect latency video, just mostly static ide material
- kllrnohj 3y ago
  The MacOS compositor already has different buffers for every window. It could stream updates of those buffers and do final composition on the AVP instead. But likely out of simplicity it seems like they just opted to use a generic, preexisting remote desktop solution. I also wouldn't hold my breath on software fixing it as even though it could it's all but certain Apple would certainly rather have you using native AVP apps instead and sees MacOS streaming as a stop-gap solution, not a valuable part of the long term strategy.
janeshchhabra 3y ago
+1, this makes it harder to interop with mac working environments which was my biggest usecase for this device. Sure, I can do other safari windows for research and stuff, but what I really want is different windows of IDEs, code search, docs, and work artifacts. Many of which may not be accessible through the vision pro (VPN, device certs, etc.), but are through my macbook. If we could have at least 4 or 5 mac windows, it would be much better, otherwise it's akin to a macbook + external monitor. Hopefully they figure out a way to add it in, but it's hard to buy with such an obvious usecase missing.
HDThoreaun 3y ago
VSCode native app when
- rpmisms 3y ago
  If it uses the Mac as a devserver, probably really soon.

_xnmw 3y ago

But you can have one floating macOS window (for your workhorse app) and then infinite other visionOS and iPadOS windows. For me, that’s good enough, most of my other monitors are just Safari tabs or something that can be replaced with iPad apps anyway. Anyway the fact that you can continue to use your phone with the headset on means you could theoretically use another computer with external monitors for desktop apps while having lots of extra virtual space for iPad/Safari apps.

hbn 3y ago

The 1 monitor cap and the fact that it's only a 1440p resolution makes me think it's a bandwidth/latency limitation, I wouldn't hold my breath on software fixing it.

janeshchhabra 3y ago
Yeah, you would likely need a hardwired connection over thunderbolt to do more. It's unlikely such a connection is possible with the specs today (only usb-c is on battery, and unsure if that can transfer data).
93po 3y ago
Fair point but I wish they’d allow more when I don’t need perfect latency video, just mostly static ide material
kllrnohj 3y ago
The MacOS compositor already has different buffers for every window. It could stream updates of those buffers and do final composition on the AVP instead. But likely out of simplicity it seems like they just opted to use a generic, preexisting remote desktop solution. I also wouldn't hold my breath on software fixing it as even though it could it's all but certain Apple would certainly rather have you using native AVP apps instead and sees MacOS streaming as a stop-gap solution, not a valuable part of the long term strategy.

janeshchhabra 3y ago

+1, this makes it harder to interop with mac working environments which was my biggest usecase for this device. Sure, I can do other safari windows for research and stuff, but what I really want is different windows of IDEs, code search, docs, and work artifacts. Many of which may not be accessible through the vision pro (VPN, device certs, etc.), but are through my macbook. If we could have at least 4 or 5 mac windows, it would be much better, otherwise it's akin to a macbook + external monitor. Hopefully they figure out a way to add it in, but it's hard to buy with such an obvious usecase missing.

HDThoreaun 3y ago

VSCode native app when

rpmisms 3y ago
If it uses the Mac as a devserver, probably really soon.