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I guess Apple had to do Vision Pro to make investors shut up, but I have a feeling it will be the next Pippin or Lisa. Apple does exceedingly well when there al

I guess Apple had to do Vision Pro to make investors shut up, but I have a feeling it will be the next Pippin or Lisa. Apple does exceedingly well when there already is a growing mass market and they can offer something "better". Home computers (Apple II), PCs (Macintosh), smartphones (iPhone), tablets (iPad). They don't always succeed, e.g. servers, gaming consoles. There isn't a growing mass market for heavy and expensive VR headsets. And as the review states, their AR may be best in class, but it is still lacking. Ultimately, I don't know what question/need does Apple Vision Pro answer? Anyone has an idea?

happyopossum 3y ago
> tablets (iPad) There effectively wasn’t a tablet market before the iPad. You also forgot ‘mp3 player’ - which was a market not created by Apple but there wasn’t really a “growing mass market” - it was niche at best.
- surfingdino 3y ago
  There was a massive portable analog audio player market before MP3 players came along. So Apple could improve on the attempts to offer a digital audio alternative. And they did. This supports what I wrote about the purpose of Apple Vision Pro. There is none. VR has forever been a solution looking for a problem.
s3p 3y ago
>There isn't a growing mass market for heavy and expensive VR headsets. According to Statista, there is[0]. The market is expected to grow by about 10% annually for the next half decade. Moreover, if this weren't a growing mass market, I don't think FB would have renamed to Meta and gone all-in on VR headsets. They just dropped the Quest 3 which undercut their 3x as expensive Quest Pro. The tech is rapidly improving and the market is definitely growing so I think it's natural that Apple wants to enter it. [0]https://www.statista.com/outlook/amo/ar-vr/worldwide https://www.statista.com/outlook/amo/ar-vr/worldwide

happyopossum 3y ago

> tablets (iPad) There effectively wasn’t a tablet market before the iPad. You also forgot ‘mp3 player’ - which was a market not created by Apple but there wasn’t really a “growing mass market” - it was niche at best.

surfingdino 3y ago
There was a massive portable analog audio player market before MP3 players came along. So Apple could improve on the attempts to offer a digital audio alternative. And they did. This supports what I wrote about the purpose of Apple Vision Pro. There is none. VR has forever been a solution looking for a problem.

s3p 3y ago

>There isn't a growing mass market for heavy and expensive VR headsets. According to Statista, there is[0]. The market is expected to grow by about 10% annually for the next half decade. Moreover, if this weren't a growing mass market, I don't think FB would have renamed to Meta and gone all-in on VR headsets. They just dropped the Quest 3 which undercut their 3x as expensive Quest Pro. The tech is rapidly improving and the market is definitely growing so I think it's natural that Apple wants to enter it. [0]https://www.statista.com/outlook/amo/ar-vr/worldwide https://www.statista.com/outlook/amo/ar-vr/worldwide