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- have worthwhile apps

causal 3y ago
Fair. In general I'm assuming the software piece will develop regardless, but you're right that there isn't really any killer app to draw people in yet.
- spywaregorilla 3y ago
  well we're in 2024 now and people still try to suggest Beat Saber (2018) is proof that VR gaming is good.
  - jwells89 3y ago
    The problem with VR gaming is that it’s been hamstrung by requiring either a substantially beefy gaming PC or limited onboard midrange smartphone with underwhelming developer buy-in. If the rumors are true that Valve is working on a standalone VR headset based around an AMD APU, I think that might be the shot in the arm that VR gaming needs, with hardware more powerful than can be found in the Quest lineup as well as x86/Windows compatibility and greater general openness.
    - spywaregorilla 3y ago
      eh. disagree. as someone with a beefy gaming pc there's nothing good. Alyx is very well made, but its not hard to see that they designed around fundamental limits that make VR suck. they don't overcome them. They perhaps manage to cover it with enough polish to get people to not notice. but its hard for anyone with design or, let's call it "gamer sense"
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  - RockRobotRock 3y ago
    Why does the age matter? It's a popular game for a reason, but VR gaming is still obviously niche. I think that HL:A is easily the best VR game that exists, but it doesn't have a lot of replay value and can only be played on desktop.
    - spywaregorilla 3y ago
      Platforms with so few noteworthy games in the past 6 years are a red flag of the health of it. Nothing wrong with that, but plenty of folks argue that VR gaming is great. HL:A, as I said in another comment, is just a case study on why VR won't work. With no disrespect to the devs because I think they really did do a good job with what they had, but it still sucks if you dare to peek under the hood. It coddles you (because it needs to).
      - RockRobotRock 3y ago
        The people I know that are heavily into VR all play VRChat. The games might not be that fantastic, but the social immersion is really amazing. During lockdown, I was playing 8 hours a day. It became a problem.
        spywaregorilla 3y ago
        sure. VR chat is good. Closer to the metaverse and its defining features as described in the actual book than any self proclaimed metaverse fan seem to know. But yeah, not really game.

Fair. In general I'm assuming the software piece will develop regardless, but you're right that there isn't really any killer app to draw people in yet.

spywaregorilla 3y ago
well we're in 2024 now and people still try to suggest Beat Saber (2018) is proof that VR gaming is good.
- jwells89 3y ago
  The problem with VR gaming is that it’s been hamstrung by requiring either a substantially beefy gaming PC or limited onboard midrange smartphone with underwhelming developer buy-in. If the rumors are true that Valve is working on a standalone VR headset based around an AMD APU, I think that might be the shot in the arm that VR gaming needs, with hardware more powerful than can be found in the Quest lineup as well as x86/Windows compatibility and greater general openness.
  - spywaregorilla 3y ago
    eh. disagree. as someone with a beefy gaming pc there's nothing good. Alyx is very well made, but its not hard to see that they designed around fundamental limits that make VR suck. they don't overcome them. They perhaps manage to cover it with enough polish to get people to not notice. but its hard for anyone with design or, let's call it "gamer sense"
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- RockRobotRock 3y ago
  Why does the age matter? It's a popular game for a reason, but VR gaming is still obviously niche. I think that HL:A is easily the best VR game that exists, but it doesn't have a lot of replay value and can only be played on desktop.
  - spywaregorilla 3y ago
    Platforms with so few noteworthy games in the past 6 years are a red flag of the health of it. Nothing wrong with that, but plenty of folks argue that VR gaming is great. HL:A, as I said in another comment, is just a case study on why VR won't work. With no disrespect to the devs because I think they really did do a good job with what they had, but it still sucks if you dare to peek under the hood. It coddles you (because it needs to).
    - RockRobotRock 3y ago
      The people I know that are heavily into VR all play VRChat. The games might not be that fantastic, but the social immersion is really amazing. During lockdown, I was playing 8 hours a day. It became a problem.
      - spywaregorilla 3y ago
        sure. VR chat is good. Closer to the metaverse and its defining features as described in the actual book than any self proclaimed metaverse fan seem to know. But yeah, not really game.