> You seem to be quoting their reasoning but either not reading or accepting it, I'm not accepting it, no. Because it's a self-contained contradiction. People

> You seem to be quoting their reasoning but either not reading or accepting it, I'm not accepting it, no. Because it's a self-contained contradiction. People are wrong all the time. I don't find it as baffling as you seem to. If someone goes on a long tirade, in English, about how they can't speak English, and answers followup questions about it, then no I don't take them at their word. It'll be clear very quickly (in interactive questions) whether or not this is merely memorized sounds. I've had a guy (on drugs) get afraid and argued to try to convince me that he did not have a pulse. I didn't need to check for a pulse to know he had one. He finally accepted my argument that "if you did not have a pulse then you would not be sitting here talking to me".