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If your children have helped you then continue making them, I dont mind

monero-xmr 3y ago
It's possibly not obvious to you, but to me and the other commenters here, you have a depressed and nihilistic outlook. Life is full of tragedy - likely something will shake you from your comfy perch. Disability, illness, a layoff, who knows. Only the fewest people live an entire long life without the slightest pain. It would be wise to have the tools so that even if you were quadriplegic, you could still have love surrounding you and find purpose in life. I genuinely hope you get the help you need.
- hotpotamus 3y ago
  > Disability, illness, a layoff I've faced all these (disability from a young age even) and as a result, I don't think there's any way I could raise children. Both because of my own issues make it seem challenging beyond possibility, but also because I wouldn't want to force a child to face the same problems I did. I very much believe to each their own on this particular subject, but if global fertility is "collapsing", then it seems like more people are coming to the same conclusion for one reason or another.
  - monero-xmr 3y ago
    I totally understand not wanting to have children for disability and deciding you are not fit to be a parent. But the OP had a lot of projection onto people who do have kids, which is false. I think being 100% financially able to have children, and choosing not to because you like to travel and watch Netflix more, is a poor reason. But everyone is free to make their own choices. My point about being comfy, was the OP's self description of a blessed, wealthy, pain-free life. But this state of things is temporary, so to be sure one has the mental, emotional, and spiritual tools to accept life when one isn't living a comfy existence. The description of having kids, and of life itself being meaningless, is a signal that when life throws the OP a tragedy, the response will not be healthy.
    - questinthrow 3y ago
      What we see in others is what we have inside
- questinthrow 3y ago
  I'm sorry I made you so mad, it was just my opinion
  - monero-xmr 3y ago
    I'm not mad - I'm discussing topics on the internet. How can I be mad when posting text in response to other text? We are having a philosophical discussion, and it seems to me like I'm speaking with an incomplete person, stuck in a difficult plane of existence, lacking purpose or happiness.
    - happytoexplain 3y ago
      Every post you've made in this chain is oozing with utterly unwarranted condescension, bordering on hatred.
- agent008t 3y ago
  If life is full of tragedy, why make more of it? So that you could still have love surrounding you when tragedy strikes? How is that not selfish but OP's view supposedly is? Yes, I agree with you that you have to create some meaning in your life, make up something and convince yourself to believe in it, because there is hardly another option.

It's possibly not obvious to you, but to me and the other commenters here, you have a depressed and nihilistic outlook. Life is full of tragedy - likely something will shake you from your comfy perch. Disability, illness, a layoff, who knows. Only the fewest people live an entire long life without the slightest pain. It would be wise to have the tools so that even if you were quadriplegic, you could still have love surrounding you and find purpose in life. I genuinely hope you get the help you need.

hotpotamus 3y ago
> Disability, illness, a layoff I've faced all these (disability from a young age even) and as a result, I don't think there's any way I could raise children. Both because of my own issues make it seem challenging beyond possibility, but also because I wouldn't want to force a child to face the same problems I did. I very much believe to each their own on this particular subject, but if global fertility is "collapsing", then it seems like more people are coming to the same conclusion for one reason or another.
- monero-xmr 3y ago
  I totally understand not wanting to have children for disability and deciding you are not fit to be a parent. But the OP had a lot of projection onto people who do have kids, which is false. I think being 100% financially able to have children, and choosing not to because you like to travel and watch Netflix more, is a poor reason. But everyone is free to make their own choices. My point about being comfy, was the OP's self description of a blessed, wealthy, pain-free life. But this state of things is temporary, so to be sure one has the mental, emotional, and spiritual tools to accept life when one isn't living a comfy existence. The description of having kids, and of life itself being meaningless, is a signal that when life throws the OP a tragedy, the response will not be healthy.
  - questinthrow 3y ago
    What we see in others is what we have inside
questinthrow 3y ago
I'm sorry I made you so mad, it was just my opinion
- monero-xmr 3y ago
  I'm not mad - I'm discussing topics on the internet. How can I be mad when posting text in response to other text? We are having a philosophical discussion, and it seems to me like I'm speaking with an incomplete person, stuck in a difficult plane of existence, lacking purpose or happiness.
  - happytoexplain 3y ago
    Every post you've made in this chain is oozing with utterly unwarranted condescension, bordering on hatred.
agent008t 3y ago
If life is full of tragedy, why make more of it? So that you could still have love surrounding you when tragedy strikes? How is that not selfish but OP's view supposedly is? Yes, I agree with you that you have to create some meaning in your life, make up something and convince yourself to believe in it, because there is hardly another option.