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I really like the admiralcloudberg blog, which provides extensive analysis of plane crashes and the NTSB investigation that follows. I hadn’t thought of it, bu

by ttcbj 3y ago

I really like the admiralcloudberg blog, which provides extensive analysis of plane crashes and the NTSB investigation that follows. I hadn’t thought of it, but I think the idea of similar investigations for self-driving car accidents is a really great idea. Though, one recurrent theme of that blog is that blame and persecution are generally counterproductive to understanding the accident and improving safety.

onetimeuse92304 3y ago
Blame and persecution are not counterproductive, they are crucial to improving safety. It is called accountability and if nobody is accountable for anything then there is no actual motivation to get businesses and financial institutions to do anything about it. What is counterproductive is blaming and persecuting wrong things. The goal is to get companies to be accountable for being committed to taking this process seriously, providing honest information whenever it is needed and then to honestly implement the recommendations once the process is concluded. We know that technical bugs happen regardless of good intentions. So we should err on the side of being lenient. Where we should not be lenient about is simple negligence where all of the information was available and the decision was made regardless. For example, if the manufacturer knew that bolts were lying around and decided to save on the costs by being willingly blind to the fact. And where real persecution should strictly follow is hiding information and evidence that is obviously needed to improve safety.
- hardcopy 3y ago
  > Blame and persecution are not counterproductive, they are crucial to improving safety. There's a good chapter on blame that you should read in this book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/There-Are-No-Accidents/Jessie-Singer/9781982129682 https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/There-Are-No-Accident...
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by ttcbj 3y ago

onetimeuse92304 3y ago

Blame and persecution are not counterproductive, they are crucial to improving safety. It is called accountability and if nobody is accountable for anything then there is no actual motivation to get businesses and financial institutions to do anything about it. What is counterproductive is blaming and persecuting wrong things. The goal is to get companies to be accountable for being committed to taking this process seriously, providing honest information whenever it is needed and then to honestly implement the recommendations once the process is concluded. We know that technical bugs happen regardless of good intentions. So we should err on the side of being lenient. Where we should not be lenient about is simple negligence where all of the information was available and the decision was made regardless. For example, if the manufacturer knew that bolts were lying around and decided to save on the costs by being willingly blind to the fact. And where real persecution should strictly follow is hiding information and evidence that is obviously needed to improve safety.

hardcopy 3y ago
> Blame and persecution are not counterproductive, they are crucial to improving safety. There's a good chapter on blame that you should read in this book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/There-Are-No-Accidents/Jessie-Singer/9781982129682 https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/There-Are-No-Accident...
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