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I am surprised that JetBrains high-ranked people are all fellow programmers, architects etc. This is a breath of fresh air when compared to some other companies

I am surprised that JetBrains high-ranked people are all fellow programmers, architects etc. This is a breath of fresh air when compared to some other companies where directors and managers are MBA types.

xyst 3y ago
They haven’t gone public yet. Once that happens the inevitable enshittification is bound to happen. Personally, love their products. One of the only products I will happily pay for. Had to unfortunately deep dive into the C# and .net world for a bit and Rider IDE made the process less painful than it would be with VS code or visual studio.
- bags43 3y ago
  Why unfortunately? .NET tech stack is one of the best tech stacks on the market. What have you been using before?
  - KronisLV 3y ago
    I would have also loved to know their thoughts. The only thing I can come up with us Microsoft's history of embrace, extend, extinguish and all that. Like how VS Code plugins have a bunch of licensing conditions around them, to the point where they don't run in VS Codium (I use Rider, but a friend had some problems with that). In general, .NET feels like a more focused Java - ASP.NET is more consistently put together, EF is arguably easier to use than JPA/Hibernate and there's lots of nice integrations (though maybe the AutoMapper thing sucks more than MapStruct). The ecosystem feels smaller and more niche than Java's, which isn't a good thing, but at least what's there is good, in addition to the language being popular in game dev or interactive demos. It runs on Linux too, the SDK is simple to install and has no issues with containers, it's okay from performance to language features (and even F# exists for those who like that sort of thing). It's easily in my top 10 for productivity. The other spots might belong to Python/Django, Ruby/Rails or even PHP/Laravel and Node/Express, in addition to Java/Spring Boot or maybe Dropwizard. Not sure about the exact order, but it's not like it matters.
- nunez 3y ago
  This might be the canary in the coal mine
- ymolodtsov 3y ago
  JetBrains hasn't raised any funding. There's no reason for them to go public.

xyst 3y ago

They haven’t gone public yet. Once that happens the inevitable enshittification is bound to happen. Personally, love their products. One of the only products I will happily pay for. Had to unfortunately deep dive into the C# and .net world for a bit and Rider IDE made the process less painful than it would be with VS code or visual studio.

bags43 3y ago
Why unfortunately? .NET tech stack is one of the best tech stacks on the market. What have you been using before?
- KronisLV 3y ago
  I would have also loved to know their thoughts. The only thing I can come up with us Microsoft's history of embrace, extend, extinguish and all that. Like how VS Code plugins have a bunch of licensing conditions around them, to the point where they don't run in VS Codium (I use Rider, but a friend had some problems with that). In general, .NET feels like a more focused Java - ASP.NET is more consistently put together, EF is arguably easier to use than JPA/Hibernate and there's lots of nice integrations (though maybe the AutoMapper thing sucks more than MapStruct). The ecosystem feels smaller and more niche than Java's, which isn't a good thing, but at least what's there is good, in addition to the language being popular in game dev or interactive demos. It runs on Linux too, the SDK is simple to install and has no issues with containers, it's okay from performance to language features (and even F# exists for those who like that sort of thing). It's easily in my top 10 for productivity. The other spots might belong to Python/Django, Ruby/Rails or even PHP/Laravel and Node/Express, in addition to Java/Spring Boot or maybe Dropwizard. Not sure about the exact order, but it's not like it matters.
nunez 3y ago
This might be the canary in the coal mine
ymolodtsov 3y ago
JetBrains hasn't raised any funding. There's no reason for them to go public.