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I wonder how much an operation with mercenaries and helicopters to get them out of Germany and the EU would cost. There are still some countries without extrad

I wonder how much an operation with mercenaries and helicopters to get them out of Germany and the EU would cost. There are still some countries without extradition and 2B should get you pretty far. Plus I don't think the police would have expected a deployment of this proportion for a warez website.

dzogchen 3y ago
Personally I'd rather live in Germany or the EU after a short prison sentence than live in some shady third world country, always looking over my shoulder and trying to protect my wealth.
- prmoustache 3y ago
  And I'd rather stay in a country that cannot extradite me to the USA.
meheleventyone 3y ago
It’d probably get you straight into the position where your 2B was immediately stolen from you.
jijijijij 3y ago
It's 2B€ worth of bitcoin, not 2B€. So, for starters, they can't even buy one liter of gasoline with it. Everyone who will accept crypto and interacts with them has to be somehow trusted not to take all those coins away... because 2B€ worth of bitcoin may warrant quite an operation to get those. I doubt they would have given away the keys, if bitcoin was in fact useful. Because actual billionaires indeed don't play by rules of the common pleb. Thinking of billionaires... they will have a similar dilemma at hand, giving orders inside their fancy end-of-times bunkers. I heard they consider shock collars :D
- costco 3y ago
  People accept crypto all the tine. I use it to pay for servers, donate to open source projects, etc. You can buy gift cards or Visa cards if you really want with it. For coins that are liquid you can sell billions of dollars of it.
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
    > You can buy gift cards or Visa cards if you really want with it. "You can use money laundering tactics to interact with the actual financial system, because the actual financial system doesn't want your crypto."
    - k8svet 3y ago
      Wow that makes me feel bad about using crypto. /s. Oh well, I've worked on payment platforms. I do online purchases all the time. I know which one takes more time, has more rejections, requires me to give up more personal details, etc.
    - costco 3y ago
      How is buying gift cards money laundering tactics? I don’t think either one of us will persuade the other so might as well end this here.
      - sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
        Gift cards are extensively used for money laundering and fraud. A quick search turns up endless articles and reports going back a decade or more. I give and receive gift cards often enough, and no, no one is going to bat an eye if you're occasionally buying something with a gift card. If that's the primary way you interact with the financial system, I'm going to assume you're involved in some kind of crime and I've got a good chance at being right in that assumption.
  - jijijijij 3y ago
    > For coins that are liquid you can sell billions of dollars of it. Yeah, when your finances are tightly monitored by law enforcement? Hope those open source projects come to your aid, and good luck paying mercenaries in gift cards :D
popcalc 3y ago
You surely haven’t heard about what happened to Kim Dotcom in NZ.

dzogchen 3y ago

Personally I'd rather live in Germany or the EU after a short prison sentence than live in some shady third world country, always looking over my shoulder and trying to protect my wealth.

prmoustache 3y ago
And I'd rather stay in a country that cannot extradite me to the USA.

meheleventyone 3y ago

It’d probably get you straight into the position where your 2B was immediately stolen from you.

jijijijij 3y ago

It's 2B€ worth of bitcoin, not 2B€. So, for starters, they can't even buy one liter of gasoline with it. Everyone who will accept crypto and interacts with them has to be somehow trusted not to take all those coins away... because 2B€ worth of bitcoin may warrant quite an operation to get those. I doubt they would have given away the keys, if bitcoin was in fact useful. Because actual billionaires indeed don't play by rules of the common pleb. Thinking of billionaires... they will have a similar dilemma at hand, giving orders inside their fancy end-of-times bunkers. I heard they consider shock collars :D

costco 3y ago
People accept crypto all the tine. I use it to pay for servers, donate to open source projects, etc. You can buy gift cards or Visa cards if you really want with it. For coins that are liquid you can sell billions of dollars of it.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
  > You can buy gift cards or Visa cards if you really want with it. "You can use money laundering tactics to interact with the actual financial system, because the actual financial system doesn't want your crypto."
  - k8svet 3y ago
    Wow that makes me feel bad about using crypto. /s. Oh well, I've worked on payment platforms. I do online purchases all the time. I know which one takes more time, has more rejections, requires me to give up more personal details, etc.
  - costco 3y ago
    How is buying gift cards money laundering tactics? I don’t think either one of us will persuade the other so might as well end this here.
    - sjsdaiuasgdia 3y ago
      Gift cards are extensively used for money laundering and fraud. A quick search turns up endless articles and reports going back a decade or more. I give and receive gift cards often enough, and no, no one is going to bat an eye if you're occasionally buying something with a gift card. If that's the primary way you interact with the financial system, I'm going to assume you're involved in some kind of crime and I've got a good chance at being right in that assumption.
- jijijijij 3y ago
  > For coins that are liquid you can sell billions of dollars of it. Yeah, when your finances are tightly monitored by law enforcement? Hope those open source projects come to your aid, and good luck paying mercenaries in gift cards :D

popcalc 3y ago

You surely haven’t heard about what happened to Kim Dotcom in NZ.