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oh, oh... open your pockets guys. Here comes again! P.D.: in one year the Community version will be abandoned. Mark my words.

Ygg2 3y ago
Well, we do have VSCodium at least. That said, I'm paying yearly subscription and I think it should have been improved somewhat. Rollbacking to old JetBrains version.
- darkstar_16 3y ago
  Not close at all.
- KronisLV 3y ago
  I'm currently on the JetBrains Ultimate plan, because their tools are that good in my eyes. Well, maybe except Fleet, because it's a bit early in its development and it loves to eat memory for the type of tool it tries to be (e.g. compete against VSC directly). I hope they don't mess with the recurring discounts for subscriptions. Honestly, the idea of getting rid of the Community version would be like shooting themselves in the foot, given how popular and passable VSC with a lot of plugins can be. I'm pretty sure nobody would actually consider doing that. Either way, for larger enterprise projects, JetBrains IDEs still feel like the right tool for the job regardless.
- ghuntley 3y ago
  VSCodium isn’t going to save us. MSFT LSP’s cannot be used with MIT releases of VSCode. See https://ghuntley.com/fracture https://ghuntley.com/fracture
- lnxg33k1 3y ago
  Have a look at Kate, last versions have LSP support and it works quite well
dubcanada 3y ago
Is the new CEO money hungry? I feel like I am missing something.
- jansan 3y ago
  The new ones usually are.
  - rswail 3y ago
    JetBrains is a privately held company. This is their 3rd CEO in 25 years of existence. Each CEO has been sourced internally. They have a solid set of products and brand in their market, they offer comprehensive coverage of their customer's needs. I'd say that they're doing a pretty good job with their strategy, and there doesn't appear to be any emphasis on short term revenue over long term growth. So this is not your standard publicly listed company movable MBA/CEO replacement.
rickette 3y ago
Why is that? Based on what?
mhd 3y ago
Wait, is Idera involved somehow?
jansan 3y ago
I am paying and have no intention to change this, but hopefully they will work on solving old issues and notch up quality a bit. With all those great features, it is a bit annoying to still get a "variable might not have been initialized" warning on a null check (myVar == null) in WebStorm after all those years.
nottorp 3y ago
What community version? If there's such a thing on the web site it's well hidden.
- hk__2 3y ago
  > What community version? If there's such a thing on the web site it's well hidden. All IDEs except IntelliJ itself come with a community version: PyCharm, PhpStorm, etc.
  - nottorp 3y ago
    They still do? I know they used to but the last time i quickly checked the site I couldn't find it anywhere. Because they didn't want me to find it. I used to use pycharm but just switched. Still using Android Studio but that's on Google's dime.
    - pohuing 3y ago
      Idk what you're looking at but the download link for the community edition is right below the ultimate edition...
      - nottorp 3y ago
        Didn't get to the download page. Why would I? I only wanted to check what they're offering this week, not download anything.
        The_Colonel 3y ago
        One way to find is to google "IntelliJ community".
  - yeputons 3y ago
    Would you mind linking to PhpStorm community edition? I don't remember being one. I believe only IntelliJ and PyCharm come with a free version, and the rest (CLion, RubyMine, PhpStorm, WebStorm, GoLand) do not.

Ygg2 3y ago

Well, we do have VSCodium at least. That said, I'm paying yearly subscription and I think it should have been improved somewhat. Rollbacking to old JetBrains version.

darkstar_16 3y ago
Not close at all.
KronisLV 3y ago
I'm currently on the JetBrains Ultimate plan, because their tools are that good in my eyes. Well, maybe except Fleet, because it's a bit early in its development and it loves to eat memory for the type of tool it tries to be (e.g. compete against VSC directly). I hope they don't mess with the recurring discounts for subscriptions. Honestly, the idea of getting rid of the Community version would be like shooting themselves in the foot, given how popular and passable VSC with a lot of plugins can be. I'm pretty sure nobody would actually consider doing that. Either way, for larger enterprise projects, JetBrains IDEs still feel like the right tool for the job regardless.
ghuntley 3y ago
VSCodium isn’t going to save us. MSFT LSP’s cannot be used with MIT releases of VSCode. See https://ghuntley.com/fracture https://ghuntley.com/fracture
lnxg33k1 3y ago
Have a look at Kate, last versions have LSP support and it works quite well

dubcanada 3y ago

Is the new CEO money hungry? I feel like I am missing something.

jansan 3y ago
The new ones usually are.
- rswail 3y ago
  JetBrains is a privately held company. This is their 3rd CEO in 25 years of existence. Each CEO has been sourced internally. They have a solid set of products and brand in their market, they offer comprehensive coverage of their customer's needs. I'd say that they're doing a pretty good job with their strategy, and there doesn't appear to be any emphasis on short term revenue over long term growth. So this is not your standard publicly listed company movable MBA/CEO replacement.

rickette 3y ago

Why is that? Based on what?

mhd 3y ago

Wait, is Idera involved somehow?

jansan 3y ago

I am paying and have no intention to change this, but hopefully they will work on solving old issues and notch up quality a bit. With all those great features, it is a bit annoying to still get a "variable might not have been initialized" warning on a null check (myVar == null) in WebStorm after all those years.

nottorp 3y ago

What community version? If there's such a thing on the web site it's well hidden.

hk__2 3y ago
> What community version? If there's such a thing on the web site it's well hidden. All IDEs except IntelliJ itself come with a community version: PyCharm, PhpStorm, etc.
- nottorp 3y ago
  They still do? I know they used to but the last time i quickly checked the site I couldn't find it anywhere. Because they didn't want me to find it. I used to use pycharm but just switched. Still using Android Studio but that's on Google's dime.
  - pohuing 3y ago
    Idk what you're looking at but the download link for the community edition is right below the ultimate edition...
    - nottorp 3y ago
      Didn't get to the download page. Why would I? I only wanted to check what they're offering this week, not download anything.
      - The_Colonel 3y ago
        One way to find is to google "IntelliJ community".
- yeputons 3y ago
  Would you mind linking to PhpStorm community edition? I don't remember being one. I believe only IntelliJ and PyCharm come with a free version, and the rest (CLion, RubyMine, PhpStorm, WebStorm, GoLand) do not.