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Yep, between photographers, graphic artists, and musicians I've already seen a massive number of people clamoring for expanded copyright. The wildest thing is,

Yep, between photographers, graphic artists, and musicians I've already seen a massive number of people clamoring for expanded copyright. The wildest thing is, just a couple years ago these people were some of the most vocal against the copyright system, especially those hit by take downs on youtube and other sites.

visarga 3y ago
Creatives forget the tools AI companies will develop for attribution will be applied on their own works as well, and unwanted attributions might pop up. We don't like to admit how much our own creativity is just derivative from a place we forgotten about. But when they make the attribution microscope, it won't be just AIs getting scrutinized. We have plenty of content with attribution to train such a system - books, art, scientific papers, media articles, even social network comments, we know author and date. We can index everything by author and search against the index to find influences. We can train "text -> author" and the use it for "new text -> attributions". But will such a system ultimately enable or block creativity? Even past works stand to be revealed in all their influences. Might be embarrassing. On the other hand generative models will be safe as they can sample around problematic attributions and still complete their tasks. We might end up having to use AI for writing in order to ensure copyright safety. The irony. "I heard you don't like AI in creative fields so from now on you need to use AI to ensure other creative's ideas are not used by mistake, or risk getting sued."
- freedomben 3y ago
  Fascinating thoughts, wish I had more than one upvote to give. You make a great point, this could end up backfiring spectacularly because it may expose how unoriginal a lot of work really is.
aatd86 3y ago
Coders will have too as well. Coding is an art. Half-seriously though, being able to provide tooling that could fund a given library could be endangered if global llms can just suggest things because they have parsed a wide array of code. Maybe it is a lost fight and the value has to be found somewhere else though. Anything physical like deployment, hosting, that AI cannot do, at least for the foreseeable future.

visarga 3y ago

Creatives forget the tools AI companies will develop for attribution will be applied on their own works as well, and unwanted attributions might pop up. We don't like to admit how much our own creativity is just derivative from a place we forgotten about. But when they make the attribution microscope, it won't be just AIs getting scrutinized. We have plenty of content with attribution to train such a system - books, art, scientific papers, media articles, even social network comments, we know author and date. We can index everything by author and search against the index to find influences. We can train "text -> author" and the use it for "new text -> attributions". But will such a system ultimately enable or block creativity? Even past works stand to be revealed in all their influences. Might be embarrassing. On the other hand generative models will be safe as they can sample around problematic attributions and still complete their tasks. We might end up having to use AI for writing in order to ensure copyright safety. The irony. "I heard you don't like AI in creative fields so from now on you need to use AI to ensure other creative's ideas are not used by mistake, or risk getting sued."

freedomben 3y ago
Fascinating thoughts, wish I had more than one upvote to give. You make a great point, this could end up backfiring spectacularly because it may expose how unoriginal a lot of work really is.

aatd86 3y ago

Coders will have too as well. Coding is an art. Half-seriously though, being able to provide tooling that could fund a given library could be endangered if global llms can just suggest things because they have parsed a wide array of code. Maybe it is a lost fight and the value has to be found somewhere else though. Anything physical like deployment, hosting, that AI cannot do, at least for the foreseeable future.