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> There is emotional harm... I agree. Things like this are potentially traumatic. This reduces to a form of cyber bullying. Cyber bullying has gotten people ki

> There is emotional harm... I agree. Things like this are potentially traumatic. This reduces to a form of cyber bullying. Cyber bullying has gotten people killed. > [T]hat has always been a bit of a cop out taht people use when they just don't like something... I disagree. Furthermore I would describe saying that there wasn't harm, and then admitting that there was but that it doesn't count, as a copout or equivocation. > Tax springs to mind as a light example. I shouldn't need to point out why harassment and taxation is an apples to oranges comparison. > [A]lthough war became much more horrific, it became so much more horrific that we seem to have stopped doing so much of it... We do a huge amount of war. I'll wager you're not aware of all the conflicts categorized as a "war"/"major war" in the list below (I wasn't when I came across it a few days ago). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_confli... I'm not even sure how to respond to the idea that war getting more horrific is a boon except to say that you should think on that again.

roenxi 3y ago
Bullying is targeted though. I doubt that this instance is someone trying to annoy Swift. She could theoretically not have noticed the episode at all and the faker would still be happy. I don't see why this has to make her feel like she is under some sort of attack. She isn't; most of the people looking at this stuff think she is a very respectable human being. Some fanatically think she is one of the best. > I shouldn't need to point out why harassment and taxation is an apples to oranges comparison. Sure. But you can see how (1) me being worse off and (2) me being upset about it are not sufficient for people to be persuaded that harm is being done to me. I mean, technically there is a point there but most people don't consider it appropriate to describe taxes as "harmful". * War and Peace There is a lot of war in the world, but if you look at the overall trends we're actually in a period of remarkable peace [0]. Absolute number of wars is way down, and death rates due to war will be way down (note that population growth is exponential so absolute numbers being a little higher actually means rates are dropping). [0] https://ourworldindata.org/conflict-measures-how-do-researchers-measure-how-common-and-deadly-armed-conflicts-are https://ourworldindata.org/conflict-measures-how-do-research...

roenxi 3y ago

Bullying is targeted though. I doubt that this instance is someone trying to annoy Swift. She could theoretically not have noticed the episode at all and the faker would still be happy. I don't see why this has to make her feel like she is under some sort of attack. She isn't; most of the people looking at this stuff think she is a very respectable human being. Some fanatically think she is one of the best. > I shouldn't need to point out why harassment and taxation is an apples to oranges comparison. Sure. But you can see how (1) me being worse off and (2) me being upset about it are not sufficient for people to be persuaded that harm is being done to me. I mean, technically there is a point there but most people don't consider it appropriate to describe taxes as "harmful". * War and Peace There is a lot of war in the world, but if you look at the overall trends we're actually in a period of remarkable peace [0]. Absolute number of wars is way down, and death rates due to war will be way down (note that population growth is exponential so absolute numbers being a little higher actually means rates are dropping). [0] https://ourworldindata.org/conflict-measures-how-do-researchers-measure-how-common-and-deadly-armed-conflicts-are https://ourworldindata.org/conflict-measures-how-do-research...