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Given how people on HN think they're so smart I'm surprised this article got voted up. Usually it's some article about how high IQ correlates with people who dr

Given how people on HN think they're so smart I'm surprised this article got voted up. Usually it's some article about how high IQ correlates with people who drink water. They just vote up the article for self validation. Now it's an article for the Narutos of the world. Guess a good number of people think they're stupid. I think both sides are wrong.

the_only_law 3y ago
> Guess a good number of people think they're stupid. My guess is it's mostly feigned humility and midwit cope.
Jensson 3y ago
You must be new here, hard work beating talent is an extremely popular topic. People mostly reads these and see themselves as the superior side, if it is an article about hard work beating talent people see themselves as the hard worker, if it is an article about smart people doing X then of course the reader is on the smart side etc. So an article on how most hard work is wasted since it wasn't well thought out would also be popular since there the reader would view his hard work as fruitful and only dumber people than them are wasting their time. It is only when you start to poke hole in that self image people have built up that the downvotes starts to come. Most people aren't significantly smarter than their peer, most peoples hard work isn't well directed, but they don't want to hear those things.
- corethree 3y ago
  No there's a lot of articles on IQ and intelligence. Less on hard work. Mainly because most people on here are programmers and the job and interview is related to intelligence. People who take pride in there programming skill think they're intelligent. As a programmer myself I think most programmers are average. Programming isn't a very hard job imo. It doesn't require a huge amount of intelligence hence the reason why it's one of the few occupations that can be entered without a degree, with self training, or a bootcamp. People think this is a field that requires high intelligence. This is false. It's a field that requires slightly above average intelligence mostly. It depends on your specialty but for the typical web dev software engineer it's more closer to average.
  - Jensson 3y ago
    > No there's a lot of articles on IQ and intelligence. Less on hard work There really isn't, simple search shows: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=hard%20work&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Compare to for example search for intelligence, mostly results about AI or they are about downplaying intelligence, not saying it is important: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=intelligence&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... or intelligent, same thing here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=intelligent&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Results that talks about the importance of intelligence get way less votes and are way less popular. Hard work tend to get hundreds of upvotes and are among the most popular on this site, articles about important of intelligence barely get any so are hard to even find via search.
    - corethree 3y ago
      Look up IQ. A search on intelligence is obviously obfuscated by AI topics.
  - tonyedgecombe 3y ago
    >As a programmer myself I think most programmers are average. I would be very surprised if that was the case, especially now that a CS degree is a requirement most programming jobs.

the_only_law 3y ago

> Guess a good number of people think they're stupid. My guess is it's mostly feigned humility and midwit cope.

Jensson 3y ago

You must be new here, hard work beating talent is an extremely popular topic. People mostly reads these and see themselves as the superior side, if it is an article about hard work beating talent people see themselves as the hard worker, if it is an article about smart people doing X then of course the reader is on the smart side etc. So an article on how most hard work is wasted since it wasn't well thought out would also be popular since there the reader would view his hard work as fruitful and only dumber people than them are wasting their time. It is only when you start to poke hole in that self image people have built up that the downvotes starts to come. Most people aren't significantly smarter than their peer, most peoples hard work isn't well directed, but they don't want to hear those things.

corethree 3y ago
No there's a lot of articles on IQ and intelligence. Less on hard work. Mainly because most people on here are programmers and the job and interview is related to intelligence. People who take pride in there programming skill think they're intelligent. As a programmer myself I think most programmers are average. Programming isn't a very hard job imo. It doesn't require a huge amount of intelligence hence the reason why it's one of the few occupations that can be entered without a degree, with self training, or a bootcamp. People think this is a field that requires high intelligence. This is false. It's a field that requires slightly above average intelligence mostly. It depends on your specialty but for the typical web dev software engineer it's more closer to average.
- Jensson 3y ago
  > No there's a lot of articles on IQ and intelligence. Less on hard work There really isn't, simple search shows: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=hard%20work&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Compare to for example search for intelligence, mostly results about AI or they are about downplaying intelligence, not saying it is important: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=intelligence&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... or intelligent, same thing here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=intelligent&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Results that talks about the importance of intelligence get way less votes and are way less popular. Hard work tend to get hundreds of upvotes and are among the most popular on this site, articles about important of intelligence barely get any so are hard to even find via search.
  - corethree 3y ago
    Look up IQ. A search on intelligence is obviously obfuscated by AI topics.
- tonyedgecombe 3y ago
  >As a programmer myself I think most programmers are average. I would be very surprised if that was the case, especially now that a CS degree is a requirement most programming jobs.