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Pushback? In the UK at least there's CAMRA (the Campaign for Real Ale) -- it was founded in 1971: https://camra.org.uk https://camra.org.uk

• senkora 3y ago
  Real ale is wonderful, I highly recommend it to anyone visiting the UK. I wish it were more common in the US.
  • bexsella 3y ago
    Bitter was the one thing in the UK that I wish I could get here (Australia). You can get London Pride in Melbourne, but they keep it refrigerated like a standard lager, so the flavour is off. There really is nothing quite like it.
    • mixmastamyk 3y ago
      Interesting… does it not come back to life when warm?
      • larsga 3y ago
        That's the point. It finishes the last bit of fermentation in the cask in the pub, so what you get served is at absolute top condition. At least initially. That, with the low CO2 and the relative warmth, makes for an experience that's completely superior to cold, carbonated beer. But you have to get used to it.
    • euroderf 3y ago
      Bottled bitter is better booted off the shelf. Tap only, thanks.
  • eru 3y ago
    The US has one of the most well developed craft beer industries on the planet. If you look a bit, there's lots of great beers to be had. ('Real ale' is fine, though I usually prefer Central European styles like Lambic, Gose, Lichtenhainer, flanders red ale, etc. There are American breweries doing these styles nowadays, too.) I quite like Jester King, they are from Texas.
    • anonzzzies 3y ago
      Craft beer yes, but is it not cold? In traditional hand pump draft way, the temperature is far higher than anything you would get outside the UK, about 13C.
      • Niksko 3y ago
        CAMRA's definition of real ale has nothing to do with temperature and is more about live yeast in the final product.
        • larsga 3y ago
          It's still much warmer than craft beer.
          • eru 3y ago
            Huh? Different beers (craft or otherwise) are best served at different temperatures. There's no single craft beer, and no single temperature at which this non-existent single beer would be served best. You would want to drink a (craft) lager colder than a (craft) stout or the Duchesse de Bourgogne. I've also had mulled beer (think like mulled wine, but with beer; a slightly sour fruit beer in this case, with spices added; but there are all kinds of recipes). And that was served hot, on a cold winter's day.
      • eru 3y ago
        When I drink craft beer at home, I stick the bottle or can in my own fridge. I control the temperature of that. As for draft when drinking out: how finely they control the temperature (and whether they take different beer styles into account), depends entirely on how fancy the place is.
    • larsga 3y ago
      > The US has one of the most well developed craft beer industries on the planet. It absolutely does. And those beer styles you mention are also very good. But cask ale is still better. Lambic and Flanders red ale are not central European, btw.
  • AlbertCory 3y ago
    There's a widespread belief in the UK that you can't get real beer in the US, which is totally wrong. It's everywhere now. Correspondingly, there's a widespread belief in the US that you can't get decent food in the UK, and that's also wrong. I've found lots of excellent food there.
    • MrMan 3y ago
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