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They still use pieces of cadaver for other surgeries. E.g. gum and bone transplants done by periodontists. Seems risky to me.

by klipt 3y ago

woleium 3y ago
as long as it’s not spine or brain matter it’s probably okay. During the mad cow outbreak (BSE, the bovine equivalent of CJD) in the UK, they banned “beef on the bone” but not all beef.
- emayljames 3y ago
  And CJD came about from farmers using ground and processed cow brains to feed cows. What could possibly go wrong feeding a cow some cow brains!
  - ljf 3y ago
    It is worse than that - it first made the jump to cows when condemned sheep, infected with the similar prion disease 'scrapie', were ground up and fed to cows.
  - meepmorp 3y ago
    There's a human prion disease, kuru, which was caused by the practice of funerary cannibalism - where family would ritually consume parts of their deceased relatives' bodies. The moral of the story seems to be, don't eat brains.
    - adrian_b 3y ago
      Which is rather unfortunate. I no longer eat meat, but when I was younger I considered the brains as the tastiest part of an animal, when properly prepared and cooked. It is said that in USA eating organs is not very popular, so it is likely that many have never experienced well cooked brains, to know what they are missing. There exists a hypothesis that is rather plausible, that breaking bones and eating their content of brains and marrow has played an important role in the evolution of humans, by providing an abundant source of long-chain fatty acids, enabling the unusual mass ratio between the central nervous system and the whole body that characterizes humans.
      - woleium 3y ago
        Brains, cooked contains 210 calories per 140 g serving. This serving contains 15 g of fat, 16 g of protein and 2.1 g of carbohydrate. The latter is 0 g sugar and 0 g of dietary fiber, the rest is complex carbohydrate. Brains, cooked contains 3.3 g of saturated fat and 4304 mg of cholesterol per serving. If you do not have risk factors for heart disease, you should limit your cholesterol intake to no more than 300 milligrams a day. 1000% your rda of cholesterol in a single serving!
djmips 3y ago
Might depend on the age of the patient.
pvaldes 3y ago
Periodontists have been also linked with a higher number of Alzheimer cases. Is a group of risk in this disease.
- bagels 3y ago
  The doctor or their patients have the higher risk?
  - pvaldes 3y ago
    if I remember correctly Dentists had more cases of alzheimer than other groups of doctors. I heard it some time ago. If is a prion, it should resist most sterilization of dental instruments by heat on autoclave. So is obvious IMAO that this could be a way to spread the disease from one patient to other, but I'm not an expert on clinic procedures and the protocols may have been updated. This is known, or at least suspected, since maybe a decade or so.
    - meindnoch 3y ago
      >Dentists had more cases of alzheimer than other groups of doctors Herpes? 1. Travels along nerve cells 2. Causes lifelong infection 3. Can enter the brain (HSV encephalitis) 4. Herpetic whitlow used to be an occupational disease of dental workers (still is to some extent) "Overwhelming Evidence for a Major Role for Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 (HSV1) in Alzheimer’s Disease (AD); Underwhelming Evidence against" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8234998/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8234998/
    - EasyMark 3y ago
      do you recall percentages? like 10% higher or 5x higher?
      - pvaldes 3y ago
        Don't remember, sorry. It was a lot of time ago. The articles should be listed in scientific indexes. Dentists are a special group that worked a lot with mercury in the past, dunno if is related but it could be a combination of risk factors. We should ask a chemist. In any case today the facts can be very different.

They still use pieces of cadaver for other surgeries. E.g. gum and bone transplants done by periodontists. Seems risky to me.

by klipt 3y ago

They still use pieces of cadaver for other surgeries. E.g. gum and bone transplants done by periodontists. Seems risky to me.

woleium 3y ago

as long as it’s not spine or brain matter it’s probably okay. During the mad cow outbreak (BSE, the bovine equivalent of CJD) in the UK, they banned “beef on the bone” but not all beef.

emayljames 3y ago
And CJD came about from farmers using ground and processed cow brains to feed cows. What could possibly go wrong feeding a cow some cow brains!
- ljf 3y ago
  It is worse than that - it first made the jump to cows when condemned sheep, infected with the similar prion disease 'scrapie', were ground up and fed to cows.
- meepmorp 3y ago
  There's a human prion disease, kuru, which was caused by the practice of funerary cannibalism - where family would ritually consume parts of their deceased relatives' bodies. The moral of the story seems to be, don't eat brains.
  - adrian_b 3y ago
    Which is rather unfortunate. I no longer eat meat, but when I was younger I considered the brains as the tastiest part of an animal, when properly prepared and cooked. It is said that in USA eating organs is not very popular, so it is likely that many have never experienced well cooked brains, to know what they are missing. There exists a hypothesis that is rather plausible, that breaking bones and eating their content of brains and marrow has played an important role in the evolution of humans, by providing an abundant source of long-chain fatty acids, enabling the unusual mass ratio between the central nervous system and the whole body that characterizes humans.
    - woleium 3y ago
      Brains, cooked contains 210 calories per 140 g serving. This serving contains 15 g of fat, 16 g of protein and 2.1 g of carbohydrate. The latter is 0 g sugar and 0 g of dietary fiber, the rest is complex carbohydrate. Brains, cooked contains 3.3 g of saturated fat and 4304 mg of cholesterol per serving. If you do not have risk factors for heart disease, you should limit your cholesterol intake to no more than 300 milligrams a day. 1000% your rda of cholesterol in a single serving!

djmips 3y ago

Might depend on the age of the patient.

pvaldes 3y ago

Periodontists have been also linked with a higher number of Alzheimer cases. Is a group of risk in this disease.

bagels 3y ago
The doctor or their patients have the higher risk?
- pvaldes 3y ago
  if I remember correctly Dentists had more cases of alzheimer than other groups of doctors. I heard it some time ago. If is a prion, it should resist most sterilization of dental instruments by heat on autoclave. So is obvious IMAO that this could be a way to spread the disease from one patient to other, but I'm not an expert on clinic procedures and the protocols may have been updated. This is known, or at least suspected, since maybe a decade or so.
  - meindnoch 3y ago
    >Dentists had more cases of alzheimer than other groups of doctors Herpes? 1. Travels along nerve cells 2. Causes lifelong infection 3. Can enter the brain (HSV encephalitis) 4. Herpetic whitlow used to be an occupational disease of dental workers (still is to some extent) "Overwhelming Evidence for a Major Role for Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 (HSV1) in Alzheimer’s Disease (AD); Underwhelming Evidence against" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8234998/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8234998/
  - EasyMark 3y ago
    do you recall percentages? like 10% higher or 5x higher?
    - pvaldes 3y ago
      Don't remember, sorry. It was a lot of time ago. The articles should be listed in scientific indexes. Dentists are a special group that worked a lot with mercury in the past, dunno if is related but it could be a combination of risk factors. We should ask a chemist. In any case today the facts can be very different.