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I understand that point of view. It just missing that most of the actual scientists are not top programmers. It is hard to be both. You can hire professional pr
by elashri 3y ago
I understand that point of view. It just missing that most of the actual scientists are not top programmers. It is hard to be both. You can hire professional programmers to do some work but that has its limit and you will need more active participation from actual scientists. We usually have this discussion at CERN. But usually the very delicate components and code that works in harsh conditions and time constraints are done in a more throughout process with help of professional programmers (many of them are very capable physicists) but the majority of physicist can work in a world where what is important is to get something done in reasonable amount of time. Usually physics analysis where physics and statistics is more important than the implementation itself.
I don't know about the dynamics of how this plays out usually in NASA but I would think this problem is there and the approach is probably the same too.
- kenhwang 3y agoI believe it was the same people, people that used to carefully plan how they'd use their 100kB of ram budget in C that then switched over to mission-of-the-week Python scripts. The code that runs on Mars was always written by career programmers, not the rocket scientists. It was the mentality that they didn't have to carefully plan resource use, or even care too much about it, and if it didn't work, they could just ship a patch was just a giant cultural shock for them, because it was so different from how they wrote mission critical software in the last several decades.
- charred_patina 3y agoIs there anywhere to read about what CI/CD looks like for a Mars rover? Curious what a pipeline for something like that looks like and how they account for bugs, what kinds of conventions they must use to keep errors from occurring.
- dehugger 3y agoI would be shocked if patches are applied to a mars rover in any way that's not got a human at the helm...