The frames, at the high-end? Yeah they are always lighter. Putting Tiagra on a 700 gram carbon frame and comparing it to Dura-Ace on a 1700 gram ti frame isn't

The frames, at the high-end? Yeah they are always lighter. Putting Tiagra on a 700 gram carbon frame and comparing it to Dura-Ace on a 1700 gram ti frame isn't the comparison we are looking for here exactly.