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> Side note: a ruling on API copyrights could have far reaching ramifications, some might be quite unfortunate, but it's important to make clear that Oracle did

> Side note: a ruling on API copyrights could have far reaching ramifications, some might be quite unfortunate, but it's important to make clear that Oracle did not start out trying to establish API copyrightability. They simply set out to nail Google for Android, and API copyright was simply a tool in their legal toolbox. Er, I'm not seeing the part of that which makes Oracle look better.

pron 15y ago
It's not supposed to, except to say that Oracle isn't trying to fight developers - it's just fighting Google (though innocent developers may be accidental victims). Frankly, I can't bring myself to whole-heartedly support either party. They're both big, fat, super-rich and super-powerful conglomerates who have no one's interest in mind except their own (and, possibly, their shareholders').
- magicalist 15y ago
  > It's not supposed to, except to say that Oracle isn't trying to fight developers - it's just fighting Google (though innocent developers may be accidental victims). In this case, the two are functionally equivalent. It's not even a subtle side effect, everyone is saying it as loudly as possible, so "accidental" or "unintended" seem disingenuous at this point.
  - pron 15y ago
    True. Then again, everything large corporations do is disingenuous.
saket123 15y ago
what difference would it make to run android on JVM instead of DVM? Isn't android too far along to take a u-turn and change the roots.
- pron 15y ago
  It would make a lot of difference. First of all, you'd be able to run programs written in dynamic JVM languages like Clojure, Groovy or JRuby unmodified. Second, Dalvik was designed for low-power, low-performane, previous-generation handsets. Embedded HotSpot is years ahead of it in terms of performane. I honestly don't know if Android is too far along to switch.

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> Side note: a ruling on API copyrights could have far reaching ramifications, some might be quite unfortunate, but it's important to make clear that Oracle did

by magicalist 15y ago

pron 15y ago
It's not supposed to, except to say that Oracle isn't trying to fight developers - it's just fighting Google (though innocent developers may be accidental victims). Frankly, I can't bring myself to whole-heartedly support either party. They're both big, fat, super-rich and super-powerful conglomerates who have no one's interest in mind except their own (and, possibly, their shareholders').
- magicalist 15y ago
  > It's not supposed to, except to say that Oracle isn't trying to fight developers - it's just fighting Google (though innocent developers may be accidental victims). In this case, the two are functionally equivalent. It's not even a subtle side effect, everyone is saying it as loudly as possible, so "accidental" or "unintended" seem disingenuous at this point.
  - pron 15y ago
    True. Then again, everything large corporations do is disingenuous.
saket123 15y ago
what difference would it make to run android on JVM instead of DVM? Isn't android too far along to take a u-turn and change the roots.
- pron 15y ago
  It would make a lot of difference. First of all, you'd be able to run programs written in dynamic JVM languages like Clojure, Groovy or JRuby unmodified. Second, Dalvik was designed for low-power, low-performane, previous-generation handsets. Embedded HotSpot is years ahead of it in terms of performane. I honestly don't know if Android is too far along to switch.