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To quote Brian Dunning of Skeptoid: > The biggest secret of the Amelia Earhart mystery is that there is no mystery, and never has been. The USCG Itasca was on

To quote Brian Dunning of Skeptoid: > The biggest secret of the Amelia Earhart mystery is that there is no mystery, and never has been. The USCG Itasca was on station at Howland and in partial radio contact with Earhart when she and Fred Noonan ran out of fuel and ditched after having slightly overshot the island in the dawn lighting conditions. The USN and USCG analyzed their data and identified this area as where the plane went down... > So the best news about Tony Romeo’s find is that he’s looking in the right place, unlike the TV networks and the random crackpots whose claims they promote. Romeo hasn’t divulged the exact location, for obvious reasons; but his location has the endorsement of Dorothy Cochrane, a curator in the aeronautics department of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air and Space Museum. She knows where the USN and USCG have said where the plane is, so that tells me Romeo is probably right. https://briandunning.substack.com/p/i-remain-very-guarded-about-the-new https://briandunning.substack.com/p/i-remain-very-guarded-ab...

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rconti 3y ago
I was curious, but the link doesn't elaborate on how much is known about the "ran out of fuel and ditched after having slightly overshot the island" -- whether that's all fact, or partially fact, or all speculation.
- CSMastermind 3y ago
  Here's the US Navy's full report: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305240 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305240 Which references the radio logs from the day of the disappearance: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6210268 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6210268 tl;dr we know they overshot the island and were running a search pattern for it while running out of fuel because they told the radio operator on the other end as much. The only question is what specifically happened (did they manage to get life rafts out, etc.
Apocryphon 3y ago
So like the fate of the Roanoke colony, the cause of the Tunguska explosion, the Dyatlov Pass incident, the explanation is what's right in front of everyone?
- bhickey 3y ago
  > the fate of the Roanoke colony What is the prosaic explanation for the Roanoke colony?
  - fwip 3y ago
    The colonists, lacking food and supplies to get by on their own, went over and joined the local Native American tribe, the Croatoan. Their descendants are likely now part of the Lumbee tribe.
    - nocoiner 3y ago
      So weird that they all disappeared! And carved “Croatoan” into a tree before that happened! I cannot imagine where they might have gone.
      - Apocryphon 3y ago
        Yeah, regardless of what might have happened to them there, it's pretty obvious that it was the destination of the colonists.
  - runjake 3y ago
    Great Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Colony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Colony Being a west coaster, I don't recall ever hearing about it. Colonial era Europeans observed that many people removed from European society by Native Americans for substantial periods of time – even if captured or enslaved – were reluctant to return; the reverse was seldom true. Therefore, it is reasonable to postulate that, if the colonists were assimilated, they or their descendants would not seek reintegration with subsequent English settlers.
francisofascii 3y ago
the exact location is a big part of the mystery
saalweachter 3y ago
And to quote his article with the bit that matches my first impressions: > I am not super gung-ho about the image. Yes, it is vaguely airplane-shaped (though not a great match for the Lockheed Electra). It’s also vaguely anchor-shaped, or the shape of most any random pile of rocks on the ocean floor — you can see at the bottom left of the image there’s another object right next to it, which would be improbable if this was indeed a lone aircraft sitting on the ocean floor. It could be anything.
- hondo77 3y ago
  What? That image looks just like Bigfoot!
WalterBright 3y ago
> Romeo hasn’t divulged the exact location, for obvious reasons The most obvious reason being he doesn't know the exact location.

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rconti 3y ago

I was curious, but the link doesn't elaborate on how much is known about the "ran out of fuel and ditched after having slightly overshot the island" -- whether that's all fact, or partially fact, or all speculation.

CSMastermind 3y ago
Here's the US Navy's full report: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305240 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305240 Which references the radio logs from the day of the disappearance: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6210268 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6210268 tl;dr we know they overshot the island and were running a search pattern for it while running out of fuel because they told the radio operator on the other end as much. The only question is what specifically happened (did they manage to get life rafts out, etc.

Apocryphon 3y ago

So like the fate of the Roanoke colony, the cause of the Tunguska explosion, the Dyatlov Pass incident, the explanation is what's right in front of everyone?

bhickey 3y ago
> the fate of the Roanoke colony What is the prosaic explanation for the Roanoke colony?
- fwip 3y ago
  The colonists, lacking food and supplies to get by on their own, went over and joined the local Native American tribe, the Croatoan. Their descendants are likely now part of the Lumbee tribe.
  - nocoiner 3y ago
    So weird that they all disappeared! And carved “Croatoan” into a tree before that happened! I cannot imagine where they might have gone.
    - Apocryphon 3y ago
      Yeah, regardless of what might have happened to them there, it's pretty obvious that it was the destination of the colonists.
- runjake 3y ago
  Great Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Colony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Colony Being a west coaster, I don't recall ever hearing about it. Colonial era Europeans observed that many people removed from European society by Native Americans for substantial periods of time – even if captured or enslaved – were reluctant to return; the reverse was seldom true. Therefore, it is reasonable to postulate that, if the colonists were assimilated, they or their descendants would not seek reintegration with subsequent English settlers.

francisofascii 3y ago

the exact location is a big part of the mystery

saalweachter 3y ago

And to quote his article with the bit that matches my first impressions: > I am not super gung-ho about the image. Yes, it is vaguely airplane-shaped (though not a great match for the Lockheed Electra). It’s also vaguely anchor-shaped, or the shape of most any random pile of rocks on the ocean floor — you can see at the bottom left of the image there’s another object right next to it, which would be improbable if this was indeed a lone aircraft sitting on the ocean floor. It could be anything.

hondo77 3y ago
What? That image looks just like Bigfoot!

WalterBright 3y ago

> Romeo hasn’t divulged the exact location, for obvious reasons The most obvious reason being he doesn't know the exact location.