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> In Germany more than half of all murder victims are women. I presume it's not much different in other countries, although gang on gang violence may distort th

by belorn 3y ago

> In Germany more than half of all murder victims are women. I presume it's not much different in other countries, although gang on gang violence may distort the picture a bit. No? For 2022 in Sweden the numbers were 93 men, 23 women. Men has been overrepresentative by 200% or more for as long as we have statistic data. You can look at the graph at the government statistic department on crime here: https://bra.se/statistik/statistik-om-brottstyper/mord-och-drap.html https://bra.se/statistik/statistik-om-brottstyper/mord-och-d... From that same page, 9% of cases involve violence within a couple relation. It would surprise me if the data looks that much different in other Nordic countries.

almatabata 3y ago
I think he has a better point if he focused on intra-relationship murders. In these cases its usually women who are the victims in most country statistics i have seen. From the swedish one: > I alla 10 fall av dödligt våld i en parrelation 2022 var offret en kvinna, vilket var 5 fall färre jämfört med 2021 => In all 10 cases of fatal violence in a couple relationship in 2022, the victim was a woman.
jijijijij 3y ago
I don't speak Swedish. What's the proportion of gang on gang violence? Because I think it's irrelevant for the argument, as the general population isn't much directly affected by it. In Germany, 2022, there were 114 male and 150 female murder (§ 211 StGB) victims. Mind you, that's all murders, including gang violence. https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Publikationen/PolizeilicheKriminalstatistik/2022/Bund/Opfer/BU-O-01-T91-Opfer_xls.xlsx https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Publikationen/Pol...
- belorn 3y ago
  The number of deaths has increased in the last 10 years by 20%, so say around 20% can be attributed to gang violence? There is no official definition of gang on gang violence in the statistics, so we can only really guess here. One thing of note is that the use of a gun sits at around 50%, which has also had a similar 20% increase in the last 10 years. The gang on gang violence that get media attention usually involve shooting or explosives.

by belorn 3y ago

almatabata 3y ago

I think he has a better point if he focused on intra-relationship murders. In these cases its usually women who are the victims in most country statistics i have seen. From the swedish one: > I alla 10 fall av dödligt våld i en parrelation 2022 var offret en kvinna, vilket var 5 fall färre jämfört med 2021 => In all 10 cases of fatal violence in a couple relationship in 2022, the victim was a woman.

jijijijij 3y ago

I don't speak Swedish. What's the proportion of gang on gang violence? Because I think it's irrelevant for the argument, as the general population isn't much directly affected by it. In Germany, 2022, there were 114 male and 150 female murder (§ 211 StGB) victims. Mind you, that's all murders, including gang violence. https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Publikationen/PolizeilicheKriminalstatistik/2022/Bund/Opfer/BU-O-01-T91-Opfer_xls.xlsx https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Publikationen/Pol...

belorn 3y ago
The number of deaths has increased in the last 10 years by 20%, so say around 20% can be attributed to gang violence? There is no official definition of gang on gang violence in the statistics, so we can only really guess here. One thing of note is that the use of a gun sits at around 50%, which has also had a similar 20% increase in the last 10 years. The gang on gang violence that get media attention usually involve shooting or explosives.