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>Don't. Just leave it. Be happy it was found, but just be respectful and leave it. I don't see anything inherently disrespectful about rasing the plane from th

by s_dev 3y ago

>Don't. Just leave it. Be happy it was found, but just be respectful and leave it. I don't see anything inherently disrespectful about rasing the plane from the seabed. I recall people telling James Cameron that he should leave the Titanic alone but he made a great movie and brought the ship back in to the public imagination and didn't disrespect the fact many souls were lost tragically. The ship was deemed not economically viable to salvage but this plane is much much smaller and it may be worth putting in a museum. I'm presuming you are offended on behalf of other people but if not can you elaborate why you find the idea so offensive or disrespectful?

TylerE 3y ago
The big problem with Titanic is how deep it is. Very, even by ocean standards.
- tomjakubowski 3y ago
  Titanic (12,500ft) is pretty close to average ocean depth (12,080ft).
  - TylerE 3y ago
    The Pacific is several thousand feet deeper on average than the Atlantic, though. Especially the parts of the Atlantic near the US mainland are quite shallow, with the continental shelf extending outwards well offshore. I guess it would have been more accurate to say that for a ship in the major Atlantic shipping lanes, Titanic is quite deep. Even looking for Titanic was a cover story in the first place. They were actually looking for a sunken Russian sub that was sorta in the area. It was only when they had a bit of left over time at the end of the mission that they ACTUALLY found Titanic, almost accidentally.
HumblyTossed 3y ago
Because there's little to be gained save morbid curiosity. She did amazing things alive, celebrate that. Putting a wreck in a museum will emphasize her death. Enjoy disagreeing...
- BriggyDwiggs42 3y ago
  That’s such an odd opinion. Her death is already emphasized whenever the disappearance is mentioned because it’s super interesting. Being concerned that someone who died doing something interesting will have their death emphasized is just super weird imo. Everyone in history is dead.
  - HumblyTossed 3y ago
    Her disappearance is emphasized. Her death is not. There is a difference.
    - BriggyDwiggs42 3y ago
      But like, who cares? It kinda just doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. I really don’t get it.
aeturnum 3y ago
> I recall people telling James Cameron that he should leave the Titanic alone I think HumblyTossed is suggesting this group do exactly what Cameron did: investigate and document but not remove. If this is Earhart's plane, it's probably also her grave. We generally frown on disturbing the resting places of the dead for commercial purposes. What "worth" do you see in placing it in a museum?
- executive 3y ago
  So people can know about it Example: https://www.facebook.com/RoyalAviationMuseumofWesternCanada/videos/for-nearly-70-years-the-ghost-a-fokker-standard-universal-sat-at-the-bottom-of-c/1862110617333007/ https://www.facebook.com/RoyalAviationMuseumofWesternCanada/...
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  We don’t frown on that at all, nor do we apply any sacred virtue to graves comprised of accidental wrecks.
  - objectivetruth 3y ago
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- malermeister 3y ago
  While I agree with you, there's sarcophagi in museums all over the world.
  - markstos 3y ago
    And on the tour these days, you are more likely to year "Yeah, maybe we shouldn't have moved it".
- cortesoft 3y ago
  > If this is Earhart's plane, it's probably also her grave. Only because no one knew where she was to bury her properly. I assume you don't say that we shouldn't recover bodies from ANY plane crash; most people would expect bodies to be moved from a plane crash to be buried properly. Why is this one different? The length of time it took to find the crash, I assume. So how long before we can't move the body because it is a grave? 3 months? A year? 10 years? I don't think I would consider this a grave, and recovering the body and burying it properly is not grave robbing.

by s_dev 3y ago

TylerE 3y ago

The big problem with Titanic is how deep it is. Very, even by ocean standards.

tomjakubowski 3y ago
Titanic (12,500ft) is pretty close to average ocean depth (12,080ft).
- TylerE 3y ago
  The Pacific is several thousand feet deeper on average than the Atlantic, though. Especially the parts of the Atlantic near the US mainland are quite shallow, with the continental shelf extending outwards well offshore. I guess it would have been more accurate to say that for a ship in the major Atlantic shipping lanes, Titanic is quite deep. Even looking for Titanic was a cover story in the first place. They were actually looking for a sunken Russian sub that was sorta in the area. It was only when they had a bit of left over time at the end of the mission that they ACTUALLY found Titanic, almost accidentally.

HumblyTossed 3y ago

Because there's little to be gained save morbid curiosity. She did amazing things alive, celebrate that. Putting a wreck in a museum will emphasize her death. Enjoy disagreeing...

BriggyDwiggs42 3y ago
That’s such an odd opinion. Her death is already emphasized whenever the disappearance is mentioned because it’s super interesting. Being concerned that someone who died doing something interesting will have their death emphasized is just super weird imo. Everyone in history is dead.
- HumblyTossed 3y ago
  Her disappearance is emphasized. Her death is not. There is a difference.
  - BriggyDwiggs42 3y ago
    But like, who cares? It kinda just doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. I really don’t get it.

aeturnum 3y ago

> I recall people telling James Cameron that he should leave the Titanic alone I think HumblyTossed is suggesting this group do exactly what Cameron did: investigate and document but not remove. If this is Earhart's plane, it's probably also her grave. We generally frown on disturbing the resting places of the dead for commercial purposes. What "worth" do you see in placing it in a museum?

executive 3y ago
So people can know about it Example: https://www.facebook.com/RoyalAviationMuseumofWesternCanada/videos/for-nearly-70-years-the-ghost-a-fokker-standard-universal-sat-at-the-bottom-of-c/1862110617333007/ https://www.facebook.com/RoyalAviationMuseumofWesternCanada/...
jncfhnb 3y ago
We don’t frown on that at all, nor do we apply any sacred virtue to graves comprised of accidental wrecks.
- objectivetruth 3y ago
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malermeister 3y ago
While I agree with you, there's sarcophagi in museums all over the world.
- markstos 3y ago
  And on the tour these days, you are more likely to year "Yeah, maybe we shouldn't have moved it".
cortesoft 3y ago
> If this is Earhart's plane, it's probably also her grave. Only because no one knew where she was to bury her properly. I assume you don't say that we shouldn't recover bodies from ANY plane crash; most people would expect bodies to be moved from a plane crash to be buried properly. Why is this one different? The length of time it took to find the crash, I assume. So how long before we can't move the body because it is a grave? 3 months? A year? 10 years? I don't think I would consider this a grave, and recovering the body and burying it properly is not grave robbing.