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i don't know why people are cheering for this? the government shouldn't take the place of the parents. I think the real reason is they don't like how tiktok i

i don't know why people are cheering for this? the government shouldn't take the place of the parents. I think the real reason is they don't like how tiktok is creating activists out of the next generation of voters. we should demand better from big tech but banning does nothing to improve platforms. so many adults here were on forums, 4chan, mmos, ventrilo growing up, even Facebook which was useful keeping in touch as a kid.

causi 3y ago
All those things were horrible for us. I can't imagine the nightmare of combining that with the use of my real name. Like yeah, I want a free for all, but how bad does something have to be before we say no way?
- tstrimple 3y ago
  > All those things were horrible for us. Except that they weren't. My life would actually be substantially worse now without most of those apps / websites. I was just another loser growing up in a rural trailer park with no real prospects before I got interested in programming and taught myself employable skills in those online forums and chat apps. It's insane to me that anyone could call themselves a part of a "hacker" community and complain about kids having access to information and wanting legislation to restrict it.
mminer237 3y ago
I agree it's the parents' responsibility, but I don't know that the government can't prevent things it deems harmful just because parents are okay with it. It also often makes things easier for parents by being able to require service providers to work with parents and limit their sales to children. I'm fine with the government enforcing curfews, smoking, and drinking laws on children even if their parents disagree. I don't think any of the things you listed, except probably Facebook would qualify as a social medium under this law. I'm honestly very thankful more manipulative social media didn't exist when I was a teen. My life probably would have been better if I didn't have access to as many as I did even.
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causi 3y ago

All those things were horrible for us. I can't imagine the nightmare of combining that with the use of my real name. Like yeah, I want a free for all, but how bad does something have to be before we say no way?

tstrimple 3y ago
> All those things were horrible for us. Except that they weren't. My life would actually be substantially worse now without most of those apps / websites. I was just another loser growing up in a rural trailer park with no real prospects before I got interested in programming and taught myself employable skills in those online forums and chat apps. It's insane to me that anyone could call themselves a part of a "hacker" community and complain about kids having access to information and wanting legislation to restrict it.

mminer237 3y ago

I agree it's the parents' responsibility, but I don't know that the government can't prevent things it deems harmful just because parents are okay with it. It also often makes things easier for parents by being able to require service providers to work with parents and limit their sales to children. I'm fine with the government enforcing curfews, smoking, and drinking laws on children even if their parents disagree. I don't think any of the things you listed, except probably Facebook would qualify as a social medium under this law. I'm honestly very thankful more manipulative social media didn't exist when I was a teen. My life probably would have been better if I didn't have access to as many as I did even.

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