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As great as the hardware seems, the Quest 3's support of basically every Android app ever made plus native apps plus PCVR apps which are free with the purchase

by ewzimm 3y ago

As great as the hardware seems, the Quest 3's support of basically every Android app ever made plus native apps plus PCVR apps which are free with the purchase of their native Quest counterpart makes it much more appealing to me. Now that they seem to be adding native support for converting Apple's spacial video, I'm having a hard time seeing any advantage other than increased clarity that I would get from moving from a Quest 3 to a Vision Pro right now, but like everyone else, I'm eager to see what they do for the next iteration. Seems like a great dev tool for now.

dpkonofa 3y ago
There is a non-insignificant number of people that would never buy or use a Meta product because of their data and privacy issues. The Quest 3 is nowhere close to the AVP simply because of that.
- ewzimm 3y ago
  I respect that point of view, but Meta has over 3 billion monthly active users. This is a large enough potential customer base for any product. I also find the privacy options on the Quest perfectly adequate, and I'm curious if there's any specific option you feel is missing or if it's just their tarnished brand reputation that causes the lack of trust.
- MikusR 3y ago
  Out of Apple and Meta only one company keeps user data on servers freely accesed by a dictatorship. And it's not Meta.
Philpax 3y ago
How do you get those Android apps without sideloading? How do you find them? How do you participate in the wider Android ecosystem? The AVP has a much stronger OS and software ecosystem play; you can just download and use your regular iOS apps, and multitask with ease in a variety of scenarios. I want the Quest 3 to be able to compete with that, but it's not there yet. Perhaps Google and Samsung will be able to pull it together for their take?
- ewzimm 3y ago
  You do have to sideload, and that will turn off plenty of people, but probably not most of the people here. It's just a matter of following the instructions on the Sidequest website. For my use, just putting F-Droid on it gives me access to everything I would want, including other app stores. After that, everything is installed and updated like any other Android device. I wish the interface supported more than running 3 apps side-by-side, like pinning apps to walls of environments, which Apple seems to be doing. I'm sure that Meta will end up copying popular features of the Vision Pro in time, just like Android and iOS have been copying each other for years now.
- MikusR 3y ago
  >The AVP has a much stronger OS and software ecosystem play; you can just download and use your regular iOS apps. We are literally discussing big companies not checking a checkbox that allows their existing apps on AVP

by ewzimm 3y ago

dpkonofa 3y ago

There is a non-insignificant number of people that would never buy or use a Meta product because of their data and privacy issues. The Quest 3 is nowhere close to the AVP simply because of that.

ewzimm 3y ago
I respect that point of view, but Meta has over 3 billion monthly active users. This is a large enough potential customer base for any product. I also find the privacy options on the Quest perfectly adequate, and I'm curious if there's any specific option you feel is missing or if it's just their tarnished brand reputation that causes the lack of trust.
MikusR 3y ago
Out of Apple and Meta only one company keeps user data on servers freely accesed by a dictatorship. And it's not Meta.

Philpax 3y ago

How do you get those Android apps without sideloading? How do you find them? How do you participate in the wider Android ecosystem? The AVP has a much stronger OS and software ecosystem play; you can just download and use your regular iOS apps, and multitask with ease in a variety of scenarios. I want the Quest 3 to be able to compete with that, but it's not there yet. Perhaps Google and Samsung will be able to pull it together for their take?

ewzimm 3y ago
You do have to sideload, and that will turn off plenty of people, but probably not most of the people here. It's just a matter of following the instructions on the Sidequest website. For my use, just putting F-Droid on it gives me access to everything I would want, including other app stores. After that, everything is installed and updated like any other Android device. I wish the interface supported more than running 3 apps side-by-side, like pinning apps to walls of environments, which Apple seems to be doing. I'm sure that Meta will end up copying popular features of the Vision Pro in time, just like Android and iOS have been copying each other for years now.
MikusR 3y ago
>The AVP has a much stronger OS and software ecosystem play; you can just download and use your regular iOS apps. We are literally discussing big companies not checking a checkbox that allows their existing apps on AVP