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If I read your post full of hyperbole and double-standards, I'd hand-wave it away too. You simply choose to cherry pick certain realities that paint men in a w

If I read your post full of hyperbole and double-standards, I'd hand-wave it away too. You simply choose to cherry pick certain realities that paint men in a worse light and women in a better light when it comes to preferences for sex toys. Even if we give you the benefit of the doubt that you are arguing in good faith, you still haven't given a compelling reason as to why it's your goddamn business in the first place what sex toys people use?

ToucanLoucan 3y ago
It's my business insofar as I'm a member of a society which is, on the whole, becoming ever more atomized and anti-social with itself. People retreat into technology because relationships are hard, and relationships are always and will likely forever be hard. People are frightened of their neighbors, people are afraid of being bullied online, people are stressed as fuck because our society is so difficult to live in, and then aside of that, we have a whole cadre of tech companies selling market solutions to our various social ills: shit like AI girlfriends, sex bots, AI pornography, which while yes, do mitigate a level of the immediate symptoms of those ills for their users, also incentivize people to not improve the world, to not integrate into the communities they crave, to not improve themselves as to create intimacy with a chosen spouse(s), but instead to recede even further into their dens where nothing is challenging, nothing is hard, and nothing requires work, but at the same time it doesn't reward you, it doesn't help you grow. It's feeling good without the things that make feeling good a good thing. It's a pale imitation of the human experience. I don't care if you have a sex toy, I have a whole fuckin tote bin of them. I'm not concerned about the toys. I'm concerned about the people who seem to be in a situation where they believe all they can have is toys. That depresses and worries me.
- gitfan86 3y ago
  So why is it ok for you to satisfy your desires with devices instead of with real human contact in a relationship? There just isn't a clear argument for where the line should be drawn.
  - ToucanLoucan 3y ago
    I mean, I use the sex toys with other humans I'm in intimate contact with. I thought that was rather obvious.
    - gitfan86 3y ago
      Sorry, my bad, so you are totally fine with sexbots as part of a 3 way.
      - lupusreal 3y ago
        The important thing is that incels remain miserable. We cannot allow technology to give comfort to people that can't get it from another person.
- fluoridation 3y ago
  >I'm concerned about the people who seem to be in a situation where they believe all they can have is toys. That depresses and worries me. Is your contention that none of them are correct in their belief?
- spiderxxxx 3y ago
  I've been married 3 times, I have offspring. I am at an age now where I can still be sexually active, but I choose not to because I'm frankly done with marriage and dating. I'm not attractive enough to pick anyone up on any dating sites, and meeting people in person just won't happen. For me, a sex robot would be an interesting diversion. I don't need to "want to have sex with" a woman to be friendly with that woman. I also don't need to go out on dates and do all kind of pointless shit just so I can get my dick wet. I'm at peace with being by myself. If I choose to have sex with a robot, who are you to judge?

ToucanLoucan 3y ago

It's my business insofar as I'm a member of a society which is, on the whole, becoming ever more atomized and anti-social with itself. People retreat into technology because relationships are hard, and relationships are always and will likely forever be hard. People are frightened of their neighbors, people are afraid of being bullied online, people are stressed as fuck because our society is so difficult to live in, and then aside of that, we have a whole cadre of tech companies selling market solutions to our various social ills: shit like AI girlfriends, sex bots, AI pornography, which while yes, do mitigate a level of the immediate symptoms of those ills for their users, also incentivize people to not improve the world, to not integrate into the communities they crave, to not improve themselves as to create intimacy with a chosen spouse(s), but instead to recede even further into their dens where nothing is challenging, nothing is hard, and nothing requires work, but at the same time it doesn't reward you, it doesn't help you grow. It's feeling good without the things that make feeling good a good thing. It's a pale imitation of the human experience. I don't care if you have a sex toy, I have a whole fuckin tote bin of them. I'm not concerned about the toys. I'm concerned about the people who seem to be in a situation where they believe all they can have is toys. That depresses and worries me.

gitfan86 3y ago
So why is it ok for you to satisfy your desires with devices instead of with real human contact in a relationship? There just isn't a clear argument for where the line should be drawn.
- ToucanLoucan 3y ago
  I mean, I use the sex toys with other humans I'm in intimate contact with. I thought that was rather obvious.
  - gitfan86 3y ago
    Sorry, my bad, so you are totally fine with sexbots as part of a 3 way.
    - lupusreal 3y ago
      The important thing is that incels remain miserable. We cannot allow technology to give comfort to people that can't get it from another person.
fluoridation 3y ago
>I'm concerned about the people who seem to be in a situation where they believe all they can have is toys. That depresses and worries me. Is your contention that none of them are correct in their belief?
spiderxxxx 3y ago
I've been married 3 times, I have offspring. I am at an age now where I can still be sexually active, but I choose not to because I'm frankly done with marriage and dating. I'm not attractive enough to pick anyone up on any dating sites, and meeting people in person just won't happen. For me, a sex robot would be an interesting diversion. I don't need to "want to have sex with" a woman to be friendly with that woman. I also don't need to go out on dates and do all kind of pointless shit just so I can get my dick wet. I'm at peace with being by myself. If I choose to have sex with a robot, who are you to judge?