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Its impressive how people here, that should know better, are cheering this on - just because they are parents themselves. Even disregarding the legality, its no

by tokai 3y ago

Its impressive how people here, that should know better, are cheering this on - just because they are parents themselves. Even disregarding the legality, its not going to work technically. The perceived safety of ones kids really crosses some wires in parents.

efields 3y ago
It’s good to have this conversation. I don’t think anyone here wants the bill enacted as-is (did anyone actually read it? I didn’t, and I don’t live in FL). Of course this is technically unenforceable. There will always fbe workarounds. You could smoke as an 11 year old if you were determined enough. But we need more pushback and dialogue on social media’s role in the common discourse. For a while, nobody talked about smoking being bad and it became normalized while killing a lot of people. Seatbelts. Dumping waste in the river… most people go with the flow of common consensus until that consensus is scrutinized.
syrgian 3y ago
It would definitely work if a parent could report the accounts of all the kids involved and their tiktok/whatever accounts got deleted + their phone numbers and emails got block-listed for the service. Even more if the system worked in a centralized way: this email/phone is used exclusively by a kid, so now all on-boarded companies must delete their accounts and not allow them to register again.
- voidwtf 3y ago
  Herein lies the rub, every time I've seen this happen in the past companies just applied blanket wide bans to accounts. Sometimes retroactively for accounts that were illegal at the time of their creation regardless of the users current age. Both Google and Twitter did this to users who created accounts before they were 13 but were then adults. If you're going to introduce legislation like this, then it needs to include provisions that it will not permanently bar those users access to the services once they are of age. I manage my children's social media interaction (near 0 with the exception of YouTube), if their accounts get permanently disabled that would be unfortunate in the future when they are old enough.
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semiquaver 3y ago
I’m a parent and think this is bullshit. It won’t work and it isn’t designed to work, it’s just political posturing destined to be struck down by courts.

by tokai 3y ago

efields 3y ago

It’s good to have this conversation. I don’t think anyone here wants the bill enacted as-is (did anyone actually read it? I didn’t, and I don’t live in FL). Of course this is technically unenforceable. There will always fbe workarounds. You could smoke as an 11 year old if you were determined enough. But we need more pushback and dialogue on social media’s role in the common discourse. For a while, nobody talked about smoking being bad and it became normalized while killing a lot of people. Seatbelts. Dumping waste in the river… most people go with the flow of common consensus until that consensus is scrutinized.

syrgian 3y ago

It would definitely work if a parent could report the accounts of all the kids involved and their tiktok/whatever accounts got deleted + their phone numbers and emails got block-listed for the service. Even more if the system worked in a centralized way: this email/phone is used exclusively by a kid, so now all on-boarded companies must delete their accounts and not allow them to register again.

voidwtf 3y ago
Herein lies the rub, every time I've seen this happen in the past companies just applied blanket wide bans to accounts. Sometimes retroactively for accounts that were illegal at the time of their creation regardless of the users current age. Both Google and Twitter did this to users who created accounts before they were 13 but were then adults. If you're going to introduce legislation like this, then it needs to include provisions that it will not permanently bar those users access to the services once they are of age. I manage my children's social media interaction (near 0 with the exception of YouTube), if their accounts get permanently disabled that would be unfortunate in the future when they are old enough.

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semiquaver 3y ago

I’m a parent and think this is bullshit. It won’t work and it isn’t designed to work, it’s just political posturing destined to be struck down by courts.