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The car I drive weighs about 1300 kg, the Tesla Model X is about 2400 kg. I was being conservative with 40%. Edit: turns out my car weighs even less. Edit2: a

by toxik 3y ago

The car I drive weighs about 1300 kg, the Tesla Model X is about 2400 kg. I was being conservative with 40%. Edit: turns out my car weighs even less. Edit2: asked Google for most common, seems Tesla Model S at around 2100 kg.

infecto 3y ago
Thats my point, you created an example to match your narrative. Same if you were to compare your car against a Ford F-150, its not a like for like comparison. Rav 4 - Model Y is a good comparison to capture the extremes. Lexus Rx 350 is 4200lbs for their base trims.
- toxik 3y ago
  People aren't picking between a Ford F-150 or a Tesla where I live, they pick between a normal ICE 5-seater or a Tesla. It's not cherry-picked, it is me-picked, a sample of 1 but a sample nonetheless. You OTOH have fabricated a choice that makes it seem reasonable. A truck is a work vehicle, a Tesla is personal transportation. The cyber truck is the like-for-like with a F-150, or at least it is designed to be.
  - infecto 3y ago
    Sorry you are, I am the one providing real world examples, you are the one saying they weight 40% more. Perhaps there is an equivalent car in your market where you could say its a like for like comparison and it is indeed 40% more but from what I can tell its usually around 20-25%. Toyota Camry, 3300lbs. Model 3, 4000lbs. 20% If you want to provide a like for like example go for it. But it has to be a like for like, not a Toyota Yaris hatchback vs a Model Y. Not sure why you are clarifying what a like for like comparison is. I am making the point that you have a cherry picked 40% example, without backing up the models and I am giving you like for like comparisons where its 20%.
infecto 3y ago
So many edits. Tell us what your car is then? You keep picking different cars. Model x 5400lbs, BMW x5 4800lbs. 12%
r00fus 3y ago
When you cherrypick your comparison options, you can come up with some crazy statistics. What vehicle do you drive, and would you honestly compare it with a Model X (a large SUV)?

by toxik 3y ago

infecto 3y ago

Thats my point, you created an example to match your narrative. Same if you were to compare your car against a Ford F-150, its not a like for like comparison. Rav 4 - Model Y is a good comparison to capture the extremes. Lexus Rx 350 is 4200lbs for their base trims.

toxik 3y ago
People aren't picking between a Ford F-150 or a Tesla where I live, they pick between a normal ICE 5-seater or a Tesla. It's not cherry-picked, it is me-picked, a sample of 1 but a sample nonetheless. You OTOH have fabricated a choice that makes it seem reasonable. A truck is a work vehicle, a Tesla is personal transportation. The cyber truck is the like-for-like with a F-150, or at least it is designed to be.
- infecto 3y ago
  Sorry you are, I am the one providing real world examples, you are the one saying they weight 40% more. Perhaps there is an equivalent car in your market where you could say its a like for like comparison and it is indeed 40% more but from what I can tell its usually around 20-25%. Toyota Camry, 3300lbs. Model 3, 4000lbs. 20% If you want to provide a like for like example go for it. But it has to be a like for like, not a Toyota Yaris hatchback vs a Model Y. Not sure why you are clarifying what a like for like comparison is. I am making the point that you have a cherry picked 40% example, without backing up the models and I am giving you like for like comparisons where its 20%.

infecto 3y ago

So many edits. Tell us what your car is then? You keep picking different cars. Model x 5400lbs, BMW x5 4800lbs. 12%

r00fus 3y ago

When you cherrypick your comparison options, you can come up with some crazy statistics. What vehicle do you drive, and would you honestly compare it with a Model X (a large SUV)?