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> That's the thing. If we don't trust, or accept that trust may not be merited, then there's nothing to break. Yeah but to get to that point you have to break
by executesorder66 3y ago
> That's the thing. If we don't trust, or accept that trust may not be merited, then there's nothing to break.
Yeah but to get to that point you have to break the trust you had in them or people in general, so my point remains. Or did you from the day of your birth assume everyone is lying to you about everything?
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y agoI guess we'll not come to agreement, here. Let's just say that I have spent my entire adult life, in close relationships with some of the most untrustworthy S.O.B.s on earth, and have learned to deal with it. Many folks think, because I am friendly, open, and kind, that I'm weak, naive, and gullible. They tend to get quite upset, when they find out, that's not the case.
- executesorder66 3y agoI'm not saying that the way you deal with untrustworthy people is wrong. I think it is a perfectly fine way to go about it. My point is that these lying assholes are not doing something "harmless".
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y agoDepends. It depends on who believes them, and what decisions those people make. I realize that most folks don't have four decades' worth of experience, dealing with hardened criminals, con artists, and generally delusional people, to firm up their personal boundaries. I've found that a good start, is not to do things like apply emotionally-charged labels to the folks doing this. If they are dangerous, or present a risk, they may be sanctioned, imprisoned, whatever. But I have found, in my experience, that offering kindness, where none is expected, is often key to helping folks turn things around. As I said, many of these people are living in their own personal hell, where they hate themselves, and the world around them, and that tends to set up a reinforcement feedback loop.