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Likewise, just because you are right in principle doesn't mean your actual comment is anything but rude and pointless.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Am I the one being rude? Maybe. Was GTK also being rude for claiming something everyone else was doing at the time, like fractional scaling, as being "Impossible"? Maybe. Sorry, maybe I was rude, but someone needs to call out BS claims like this as they probably have enough "yes men" tooting their horn.
- tristan957 3y ago
  Please cite where a GTK developer said that fractional scaling was impossible.
- Vinnl 3y ago
  > someone needs to call out BS claims like this as they probably have enough "yes men" tooting their horn. Do they, though? Does it have any effect at all, other than potentially demotivating volunteer contributors? And if so, do those effects outweigh the negative effects?
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    Gnome's problems are not those volunteers contributing code, but the leadership who decided what gets merged to mainline. Devs could have implemented thumbnails in file picker over a decade ago, but Gnome leadership was always against it. Toxic and poor leadershipof such large projects should be openly criticized and pointed at, and not allow to hide and be gaslighten behind the "poor small volunteer devs".
    - tuna74 3y ago
      "Devs could have implemented thumbnails in file picker over a decade ago, but Gnome leadership was always against it." Please stop this bullshit.
    - Vinnl 3y ago
      What have years and years of criticising and pointing-at brought us, other than a couple of burnt-out devs? And is there anywhere where we can see that this elite leadership suddenly changed their minds on allowing this, rather than a developer seeing an opportunity when a bunch of things got deprecated, which had been postponed for a long time because it creates a lot of work for downstreams [0]? Or is the fact that they didn't want to haphazardly break those downstreams the poor leadership you speak of? [0] https://blog.gtk.org/2022/12/15/a-grid-for-the-file-chooser/ https://blog.gtk.org/2022/12/15/a-grid-for-the-file-chooser/

Am I the one being rude? Maybe. Was GTK also being rude for claiming something everyone else was doing at the time, like fractional scaling, as being "Impossible"? Maybe. Sorry, maybe I was rude, but someone needs to call out BS claims like this as they probably have enough "yes men" tooting their horn.

tristan957 3y ago
Please cite where a GTK developer said that fractional scaling was impossible.
Vinnl 3y ago
> someone needs to call out BS claims like this as they probably have enough "yes men" tooting their horn. Do they, though? Does it have any effect at all, other than potentially demotivating volunteer contributors? And if so, do those effects outweigh the negative effects?
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  Gnome's problems are not those volunteers contributing code, but the leadership who decided what gets merged to mainline. Devs could have implemented thumbnails in file picker over a decade ago, but Gnome leadership was always against it. Toxic and poor leadershipof such large projects should be openly criticized and pointed at, and not allow to hide and be gaslighten behind the "poor small volunteer devs".
  - tuna74 3y ago
    "Devs could have implemented thumbnails in file picker over a decade ago, but Gnome leadership was always against it." Please stop this bullshit.
  - Vinnl 3y ago
    What have years and years of criticising and pointing-at brought us, other than a couple of burnt-out devs? And is there anywhere where we can see that this elite leadership suddenly changed their minds on allowing this, rather than a developer seeing an opportunity when a bunch of things got deprecated, which had been postponed for a long time because it creates a lot of work for downstreams [0]? Or is the fact that they didn't want to haphazardly break those downstreams the poor leadership you speak of? [0] https://blog.gtk.org/2022/12/15/a-grid-for-the-file-chooser/ https://blog.gtk.org/2022/12/15/a-grid-for-the-file-chooser/