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Both fractional scaling and thumbnails did require massive background work. The term „impossible“ is therefore incorrect. It required huge changes in the back

Both fractional scaling and thumbnails did require massive background work. The term „impossible“ is therefore incorrect. It required huge changes in the backend which weren’t feasible in short term. The thumbnails are done already and the new renderes are approaching. Keep in mind, developers strive good solutions. Users need good solutions. Companies are often happy with less reliable solutions because they are forced to be fast. And this less reliable stuff tends to stay long.

maccard 3y ago
The trade-off is that other platforms have had this support for a decade. Stuff like this keeps people from switching.
- ho_schi 3y ago
  I think there are other reasons which matter. * what comes preinstalled * a weird application * the end Regarding features - for users - Linux with GNOME is delivering features for decades which Windows lacks: * Tabs in file-browser * fast and modern terminal (ttf-fonts, utf8, OpenGL…) * clear concise settings * maintained application repositories * no „desktop“ which forces me to arrange icons (WTF?) Other consider Cortana or ChatGPT as „required“. If they think so…
  - dog436zkj3p7 3y ago
    You seem to be very much out of date with the current state of Windows. tabs in file browser >built in for the last 2 years, tabs can be rearranged, moved between explorer windows, etc. fast and modern terminal >windows terminal (released 2019 and built in by default) is one of the best terminal apps on any platform. Tabs, GPU acceleration, fonts, seamless multishell support (including Linux shells local - WSL - or remote) *maintained application repositories > winget (released 2020 and built in by default) repository is now the backend of windows store and can maintain externally installed software, just run ‘winget upgrade —-all’ in your shell of choice Also, you can now install any linux distro you want with a single click using WSL, with full x11 and Wayland support. If there’s a Linux app you prefer, you can use it seamlessly. You can even run a full desktop. I’d almost go as far as to say that nvidia hardware is supported better through WSL, where latest drivers “just work” and I’ve never experienced things breaking, than on baremetal Linux (although that says more about nvidia than any platform).
    - ho_schi 3y ago
      The point is the most are available since 2002 with Linux. Only recently on Windows. And here is argued that the special thumbnail feature was missing on Linux since around 2002. I’m glad about the thumbnails (it was overdue by a decade) but there are many features and every new feature available is missing somewhere else[1]. Next year we will discuss either missing Flatpak support on Windows (cgroups, namespaces) or missing Vulkan on MacOS or missing built-in Android support on Linux. [1] or not - because it doesn’t fit well. For example the weird database/library kind stuff in Explorer which teases users on Windows. I think EXPLORER.EXE has become awful hard to use. It was usable back in NT4 and NT5.
kuschku 3y ago
I know how much work this is, and I genuinely appreciate that Gtk has finally reached this milestone. It was the last missing puzzle piece. It's just sad that Gtk used to have this functionality and dropped it when Gtk3 was envisioned, as it meant the ecosystem was stuck waiting for over a decade.

maccard 3y ago

The trade-off is that other platforms have had this support for a decade. Stuff like this keeps people from switching.

ho_schi 3y ago
I think there are other reasons which matter. * what comes preinstalled * a weird application * the end Regarding features - for users - Linux with GNOME is delivering features for decades which Windows lacks: * Tabs in file-browser * fast and modern terminal (ttf-fonts, utf8, OpenGL…) * clear concise settings * maintained application repositories * no „desktop“ which forces me to arrange icons (WTF?) Other consider Cortana or ChatGPT as „required“. If they think so…
- dog436zkj3p7 3y ago
  You seem to be very much out of date with the current state of Windows. tabs in file browser >built in for the last 2 years, tabs can be rearranged, moved between explorer windows, etc. fast and modern terminal >windows terminal (released 2019 and built in by default) is one of the best terminal apps on any platform. Tabs, GPU acceleration, fonts, seamless multishell support (including Linux shells local - WSL - or remote) *maintained application repositories > winget (released 2020 and built in by default) repository is now the backend of windows store and can maintain externally installed software, just run ‘winget upgrade —-all’ in your shell of choice Also, you can now install any linux distro you want with a single click using WSL, with full x11 and Wayland support. If there’s a Linux app you prefer, you can use it seamlessly. You can even run a full desktop. I’d almost go as far as to say that nvidia hardware is supported better through WSL, where latest drivers “just work” and I’ve never experienced things breaking, than on baremetal Linux (although that says more about nvidia than any platform).
  - ho_schi 3y ago
    The point is the most are available since 2002 with Linux. Only recently on Windows. And here is argued that the special thumbnail feature was missing on Linux since around 2002. I’m glad about the thumbnails (it was overdue by a decade) but there are many features and every new feature available is missing somewhere else[1]. Next year we will discuss either missing Flatpak support on Windows (cgroups, namespaces) or missing Vulkan on MacOS or missing built-in Android support on Linux. [1] or not - because it doesn’t fit well. For example the weird database/library kind stuff in Explorer which teases users on Windows. I think EXPLORER.EXE has become awful hard to use. It was usable back in NT4 and NT5.

kuschku 3y ago

I know how much work this is, and I genuinely appreciate that Gtk has finally reached this milestone. It was the last missing puzzle piece. It's just sad that Gtk used to have this functionality and dropped it when Gtk3 was envisioned, as it meant the ecosystem was stuck waiting for over a decade.