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You mean Broadway? https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/broadway.html https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/broadway.html https://www.phoronix.com/news/GTK4-Broadway-Being-Used htt

You mean Broadway? https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/broadway.html https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/broadway.html https://www.phoronix.com/news/GTK4-Broadway-Being-Used https://www.phoronix.com/news/GTK4-Broadway-Being-Used I did not considered it as main/official backend but it is still there and was ported to Gtk4.

wg0 3y ago
Oh yes, that's it. Thanks for posting. I think its so beautiful. It is one of those things that have pure artisan value. Of craftsmanship. Whether it is used widely or not, I wish this backend to be there. Back then, I did run Open Office in Firefox and it amazed me.
- mananaysiempre 3y ago
  If nothing’s changed, the Gtk 4 design tool Cambalache[1] by the former maintainer of the now-defunct Glade project uses[2] Broadway to render its design view, because it was there and an embedded Wayland compositor widget wasn’t. Broadway is awesome, but this just makes me sad. [1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/jpu/cambalache https://gitlab.gnome.org/jpu/cambalache [2] https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/2021/05/18/merengue-cambalaches-workspace/ https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/2021/05/18/merengue-cambalache...
  - aktuel 3y ago
    I dont't understand. What exactly makes you sad?
    - mananaysiempre 3y ago
      That the easiest way for a UI design tool using a native toolkit and targeting that same toolkit to display a preview of the UI being edited turned out to be embedding the 800-pound gorilla called a webview.
      - tadfisher 3y ago
        The only reason the tool does that is to support multiple versions of GTK. But the alternative you suggest, embedding a Wayland compositor in a widget, doesn't exactly seem to be the lightest-weight of options.
        mananaysiempre 3y ago
        Not my suggestion, for what it’s worth, but the author’s own (in ref. 2 above). And yes, it’s not precisely fantastic, but on the other hand “embedded Wayland compositor” is for the most part a fancy way to say “dumb RPC passthrough and a single blit”. (That doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t take a whole lot of work to make, just that the eventual result would not be huge.)

wg0 3y ago

Oh yes, that's it. Thanks for posting. I think its so beautiful. It is one of those things that have pure artisan value. Of craftsmanship. Whether it is used widely or not, I wish this backend to be there. Back then, I did run Open Office in Firefox and it amazed me.

mananaysiempre 3y ago
If nothing’s changed, the Gtk 4 design tool Cambalache[1] by the former maintainer of the now-defunct Glade project uses[2] Broadway to render its design view, because it was there and an embedded Wayland compositor widget wasn’t. Broadway is awesome, but this just makes me sad. [1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/jpu/cambalache https://gitlab.gnome.org/jpu/cambalache [2] https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/2021/05/18/merengue-cambalaches-workspace/ https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/2021/05/18/merengue-cambalache...
- aktuel 3y ago
  I dont't understand. What exactly makes you sad?
  - mananaysiempre 3y ago
    That the easiest way for a UI design tool using a native toolkit and targeting that same toolkit to display a preview of the UI being edited turned out to be embedding the 800-pound gorilla called a webview.
    - tadfisher 3y ago
      The only reason the tool does that is to support multiple versions of GTK. But the alternative you suggest, embedding a Wayland compositor in a widget, doesn't exactly seem to be the lightest-weight of options.
      - mananaysiempre 3y ago
        Not my suggestion, for what it’s worth, but the author’s own (in ref. 2 above). And yes, it’s not precisely fantastic, but on the other hand “embedded Wayland compositor” is for the most part a fancy way to say “dumb RPC passthrough and a single blit”. (That doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t take a whole lot of work to make, just that the eventual result would not be huge.)