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I really need SF to stop sending idiots to the state senate.
by KerrAvon 3y ago
I really need SF to stop sending idiots to the state senate.
- CamperBob2 3y agoGet involved with your local Republican party and work to kick out the loons. This kind of legislation flourishes when the party that proposes it has no fear of competition.
- inpdx 3y agoAll there is is loons.
- huytersd 3y agoI’ll take those “loons” over any democracy destroying republican since we don’t have a third choice though.
- tempestn 3y agoI think you misinterpreted the comment you replied to. The "loons" being referred to were the democracy-destroying Republicans. He's suggesting trying to get rid of them, so that there is a non-lunatic alternative to the Democrats.
- ffgjgf1 3y agoSure. But any single party state is inherently non-democratic regardless of anything else.
- huytersd 3y agoIt’s not like there isn’t a choice so it’s odd to call it single party. The majority of Californians don’t see anything republicans offer worth voting for. That’s pretty democratic. Your point may be valid for heavily gerrymandered states though, which are without exception in today’s America Republican lead.
- ffgjgf1 3y agoAny system dominated by a single party with no real checks and balances will inevitably becomes thoroughly corrupt. Having the theoretical option to vote for someone else hardly changes that if there is no credible competition. > Your point may be valid for heavily gerrymandered states though Any FPTP system. Gerrymandering is just the icing on the cake.
- tempestn 3y agoIt does become a problem in a two party system when one party becomes too extreme for people with moderate viewpoints to consider, since the result is a de facto one-party system (at best, or the extreme party in power at worst). And indeed, this means less of a check on the more extreme impulses of that remaining party. Whether a grassroots initiative to moderate the Republican party would be successful, I'm less convinced.
- dmitrygr 3y ago> one party becomes too extreme for people with moderate viewpoints to consider CA Democrats have been that way since CA became a one-party state. It is not new, sadly.
- Gibbon1 3y agoI'm rather sorry because this is performative bullshit by Wiener which if anything might cause his party to lose a few races outside of California.