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i have difficulty seeing the hierarchy. to me self transcendence is closely linked to belonging. i can't have family, friends or a community unless i care about

by em-bee 3y ago

i have difficulty seeing the hierarchy. to me self transcendence is closely linked to belonging. i can't have family, friends or a community unless i care about them and not only about myself. moreso, caring about others is what creates that belonging in the first place. so while basic needs are kind of a foundation, it seems that the other needs are more or less in parallel on top of that. also, another thought is to look at needs not from an individual perspective, but from a community perspective. once you have achived belonging, it is the belonging and the community that ensures your basic needs. when i am homeless and hungry, i don't automatically ignore the needs of my family and community in order to get food and shelter. in fact losing family and community is part of what causes me to be homeless and hungry in the first place. so i can't have food, shelter and protection unless i transcend and care about my community, or, in reverse i care about family and community because they provide food and shelter

apantel 3y ago
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broscillator 3y ago
I'd disagree a bit. Family and friends are centered around a self. There's millions of people who are super generous towards their circle yet assholes towards strangers. I think seeing strangers with more generosity is transcendent. In fact I'd say this concept is strongly related to how you behave precisely when there's no belonging: to those that don't belong in your perceived group and when you don't feel like you belong in a group.
- em-bee 3y ago
  true, that's a good point. i didn't grow up with much of a supportive family myself, on the other hand i come from a country with strong social support, so i tend to focus more on the outer society myself, also my social network depends on the openness of strangers. you are right, transcendence of self needs to reach everyone, and especially the outsiders.

by em-bee 3y ago

apantel 3y ago

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broscillator 3y ago

I'd disagree a bit. Family and friends are centered around a self. There's millions of people who are super generous towards their circle yet assholes towards strangers. I think seeing strangers with more generosity is transcendent. In fact I'd say this concept is strongly related to how you behave precisely when there's no belonging: to those that don't belong in your perceived group and when you don't feel like you belong in a group.

em-bee 3y ago
true, that's a good point. i didn't grow up with much of a supportive family myself, on the other hand i come from a country with strong social support, so i tend to focus more on the outer society myself, also my social network depends on the openness of strangers. you are right, transcendence of self needs to reach everyone, and especially the outsiders.