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"City of New Orleans": Arlo Guthrie, Right?

1 points by AlbertCory 3y ago

AlbertCory 3y ago
As someone on HN said: when a headline ends in a question mark, the answer is always "no."
- eesmith 3y ago
  Likely as a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines
defrost 3y ago
Port of Amsterdam: David Bowie, Right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uPZIG5BHD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uPZIG5BHD4 Non. Jacques Brel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p7RNVhHGbY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p7RNVhHGbY
eesmith 3y ago
I enjoyed hearing it sung in a different style. I've only heard Guthrie's version, or one directly inspired by it.
- ahazred8ta 3y ago
  In Europe, they changed the lyrics to be about having fun in the summertime. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-g7aWN6NI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-g7aWN6NI0 (Indira Weis 2009)
  - eesmith 3y ago
    Interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_New_Orleans_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_New_Orleans_(song) says there are at least three different German translations. Still, when I listen to the German version I hear a much stronger connection to Guthrie's style than Goodman's. I don't know the right music terminology. To my ear, Guthrie and Weis sing on the beats with even syllables, while Goodman stretches and compresses the syllables within the beat. Like, Guthrie has "sóns of Púll·man Pórt·ers and sóns of én·gin·éers", where I use the acute accent to indicate emphasis, and with the same timing between the syllables, making it like the puffs and chuffs of a steam locomotive. Weis's song also has very regular timing. While Weis has "sōns öf Pūll·män Pōrt·ers änd sōns öf ēngïnēers" where I use the macron to show both emphasis and stretching of the vowel, and the dieresis to indicate a shortened vowel.
    - AlbertCory 3y ago
      Always look on Wikipedia, I should have realized. seriously: they keep the melody and make the lyrics NOT about trains? I'd be happy to have never known that. I guess trains are not disappearing in Europe and there's no romance about them.

1 points by AlbertCory 3y ago

AlbertCory 3y ago

As someone on HN said: when a headline ends in a question mark, the answer is always "no."

eesmith 3y ago
Likely as a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines

defrost 3y ago

Port of Amsterdam: David Bowie, Right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uPZIG5BHD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uPZIG5BHD4 Non. Jacques Brel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p7RNVhHGbY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p7RNVhHGbY

eesmith 3y ago

I enjoyed hearing it sung in a different style. I've only heard Guthrie's version, or one directly inspired by it.

ahazred8ta 3y ago
In Europe, they changed the lyrics to be about having fun in the summertime. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-g7aWN6NI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-g7aWN6NI0 (Indira Weis 2009)
- eesmith 3y ago
  Interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_New_Orleans_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_New_Orleans_(song) says there are at least three different German translations. Still, when I listen to the German version I hear a much stronger connection to Guthrie's style than Goodman's. I don't know the right music terminology. To my ear, Guthrie and Weis sing on the beats with even syllables, while Goodman stretches and compresses the syllables within the beat. Like, Guthrie has "sóns of Púll·man Pórt·ers and sóns of én·gin·éers", where I use the acute accent to indicate emphasis, and with the same timing between the syllables, making it like the puffs and chuffs of a steam locomotive. Weis's song also has very regular timing. While Weis has "sōns öf Pūll·män Pōrt·ers änd sōns öf ēngïnēers" where I use the macron to show both emphasis and stretching of the vowel, and the dieresis to indicate a shortened vowel.
  - AlbertCory 3y ago
    Always look on Wikipedia, I should have realized. seriously: they keep the melody and make the lyrics NOT about trains? I'd be happy to have never known that. I guess trains are not disappearing in Europe and there's no romance about them.