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But you have partial control. You can vote for candidates that take climate change seriously. You can decide to buy or lease an EV instead of an ICE one. You

But you have partial control. You can vote for candidates that take climate change seriously. You can decide to buy or lease an EV instead of an ICE one. You can raise the bar for when you book a flight. And so on...

zb3 3y ago
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- Jaxan 3y ago
  You can give money to charity so that poor people also get solar panels. (Or vote for a government which cares.)
anonuser123456 3y ago
The crux of the problem is this; The people that believe in climate change don’t understand how to solve the problem. And the people that know how to solve the problem don’t really consider it a problem worth solving at this point.
JackSlateur 3y ago
Well, the only meaning full to do is kill yourself, so you are right : everybody is in control, somehow
mgaunard 3y ago
It's not up to individuals to fix it. Your impact is nothing. Cars matter very little in the big picture as well -- it's a distraction to blame the little people. The vast majority of pollution is caused by industrial processes. The fix here is simple: regulate and enforce the regulation. The main polluting countries are: the USA: too afraid to do anything in case it affects their economy, political caste too corrupt to do what's needed. Russia: doesn't give a shit, mostly see global warming as a way to get more influence, more usable land, and have such a little population density anyway they can afford to fuck some of it. India: polluting as a result of too many people and trying to catch up economically, but might get their shit together like China did. Saudi Arabia: has built their whole state on an unsustainable dependency on burning more than half of the oil they extract just for AC and water, and is completely fucked regardless.
- tim333 3y ago
  World society is just a bunch of individuals so some have to do something. Re global regulation you need to get the main players like the US, China and Russia to agree some sort of policy which is tricky but might be possible if people lobby their politicians.
  - mgaunard 3y ago
    There is already a global agreement that the US keeps getting out of. China has already solved their problem and significantly improved air quality in its cities, and is the world biggest builder of nuclear power plants. They ceased being a problem already.
    - kiitos 3y ago
      This is obviously not true?
- ianburrell 3y ago
  We don't care about pollution, for climate change only the pollution of carbon dioxide matters. The majority of carbon dioxide is produced by transportation and heating, much of that from individuals. There are a lot of people that want to deflect from action on climate change by focusing on the oil refinery and not the tailpipe. Your list is suspiciously missing China, the biggest producer of CO2. Saudi Arabia is down the list, after South Korea and Germany; their CO2 per capita is but not abormally. It is the per capita emissions and population that matter. Then USA (300 million), Russia (147 million), Saudi Arabia (40 million), India (1.4 billion). The first three have large per capita emissions, double the others. The list of CO2 producers are basically a list of large and/or rich countries.
  - mgaunard 3y ago
    I listed the countries blocking progress, not the one that produced more according to some arbitrary metric.

zb3 3y ago

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Jaxan 3y ago
You can give money to charity so that poor people also get solar panels. (Or vote for a government which cares.)

anonuser123456 3y ago

The crux of the problem is this; The people that believe in climate change don’t understand how to solve the problem. And the people that know how to solve the problem don’t really consider it a problem worth solving at this point.

JackSlateur 3y ago

Well, the only meaning full to do is kill yourself, so you are right : everybody is in control, somehow

mgaunard 3y ago

It's not up to individuals to fix it. Your impact is nothing. Cars matter very little in the big picture as well -- it's a distraction to blame the little people. The vast majority of pollution is caused by industrial processes. The fix here is simple: regulate and enforce the regulation. The main polluting countries are: the USA: too afraid to do anything in case it affects their economy, political caste too corrupt to do what's needed. Russia: doesn't give a shit, mostly see global warming as a way to get more influence, more usable land, and have such a little population density anyway they can afford to fuck some of it. India: polluting as a result of too many people and trying to catch up economically, but might get their shit together like China did. Saudi Arabia: has built their whole state on an unsustainable dependency on burning more than half of the oil they extract just for AC and water, and is completely fucked regardless.

tim333 3y ago
World society is just a bunch of individuals so some have to do something. Re global regulation you need to get the main players like the US, China and Russia to agree some sort of policy which is tricky but might be possible if people lobby their politicians.
- mgaunard 3y ago
  There is already a global agreement that the US keeps getting out of. China has already solved their problem and significantly improved air quality in its cities, and is the world biggest builder of nuclear power plants. They ceased being a problem already.
  - kiitos 3y ago
    This is obviously not true?
ianburrell 3y ago
We don't care about pollution, for climate change only the pollution of carbon dioxide matters. The majority of carbon dioxide is produced by transportation and heating, much of that from individuals. There are a lot of people that want to deflect from action on climate change by focusing on the oil refinery and not the tailpipe. Your list is suspiciously missing China, the biggest producer of CO2. Saudi Arabia is down the list, after South Korea and Germany; their CO2 per capita is but not abormally. It is the per capita emissions and population that matter. Then USA (300 million), Russia (147 million), Saudi Arabia (40 million), India (1.4 billion). The first three have large per capita emissions, double the others. The list of CO2 producers are basically a list of large and/or rich countries.
- mgaunard 3y ago
  I listed the countries blocking progress, not the one that produced more according to some arbitrary metric.