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Opioids are almost certainly worse than antidepressants, and I don't see why you appear to believe that they are alternatives to each other. Any entity partici

Opioids are almost certainly worse than antidepressants, and I don't see why you appear to believe that they are alternatives to each other. Any entity participating in an endeavour which as part of its activities distributes, markets or which through propaganda or political action defends the use of opioids must be destroyed, because opioids are a chemical weapon. They aren't 'illegal drugs'. They're a means to destroy somebody, and that is all they are.

swayvil 3y ago
How are opioids worse than antidepressants ?
- impossiblefork 3y ago
  Do antidepressants hijack people's reward systems so that they no longer enjoy things other than antidepressants?
  - swayvil 3y ago
    And antidepressants are known to induce psychosis. But just answer the question plainly. I really want to know.
- chasil 3y ago
  I am not greatly familiar with the dangers of antidepressants. I do know that abruptly lowering the dose for some can cause thoughts of suicide. Some have side effects of sexual dysfunction. Some cause weight gain. That's about the limit of my knowledge. What I know about the opioid class of drugs is that tolerance builds so the dosages commonly increase, too much stops the heart, and trying to stop causes violent withdrawal. To me, opioids sound far more dangerous, enough to get its very own disorder. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_use_disorder https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_use_disorder
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    > too much stops the heart At the risk of pedantry, opioids don't work directly on heart function. Too much opioids in the system cause respiratory depression. That can go on to become respiratory arrest, which can then cause cardiac arrest. Same end result, but the point is, opioid overdose is primarily a respiratory concern. In my county some EMS do not even carry Narcan (which is a debate in itself) but are directed to focus on positive pressure ventilation and transport to ER or, if carried, to gently titrate Narcan such that the person becomes gradually more alert at the ER and may be more open to addiction help, rather than the "heroic dose" that you get with IN (intra-nasal) Narcan.
- ianburrell 3y ago
  Opioids are highly addictive and overdoses are deadly. Antidepressants increase suicide risks for some while decreasing for majority, saving large numbers. More people in US die of overdose than suicide.

swayvil 3y ago

How are opioids worse than antidepressants ?

impossiblefork 3y ago
Do antidepressants hijack people's reward systems so that they no longer enjoy things other than antidepressants?
- swayvil 3y ago
  And antidepressants are known to induce psychosis. But just answer the question plainly. I really want to know.
chasil 3y ago
I am not greatly familiar with the dangers of antidepressants. I do know that abruptly lowering the dose for some can cause thoughts of suicide. Some have side effects of sexual dysfunction. Some cause weight gain. That's about the limit of my knowledge. What I know about the opioid class of drugs is that tolerance builds so the dosages commonly increase, too much stops the heart, and trying to stop causes violent withdrawal. To me, opioids sound far more dangerous, enough to get its very own disorder. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_use_disorder https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_use_disorder
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  > too much stops the heart At the risk of pedantry, opioids don't work directly on heart function. Too much opioids in the system cause respiratory depression. That can go on to become respiratory arrest, which can then cause cardiac arrest. Same end result, but the point is, opioid overdose is primarily a respiratory concern. In my county some EMS do not even carry Narcan (which is a debate in itself) but are directed to focus on positive pressure ventilation and transport to ER or, if carried, to gently titrate Narcan such that the person becomes gradually more alert at the ER and may be more open to addiction help, rather than the "heroic dose" that you get with IN (intra-nasal) Narcan.
ianburrell 3y ago
Opioids are highly addictive and overdoses are deadly. Antidepressants increase suicide risks for some while decreasing for majority, saving large numbers. More people in US die of overdose than suicide.