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Don't misunderstand me here. I'd rather be wrong regarding my "doomism," and I no longer worry about climate change; it doesn't make sense to worry about someth

Don't misunderstand me here. I'd rather be wrong regarding my "doomism," and I no longer worry about climate change; it doesn't make sense to worry about something that can't be changed. However, I observe that people aren't scared enough to take action. They continue to dance around the issue in political euphoria. The changes to our lifestyle are happening too slowly to be effective. The gas and oil industry is doing a lot of carbon emission washing, like CSS. Many optimists argue, "We can't predict it, therefore we shouldn't be worried."

Elextric 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_engineering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_engineering
bemusedthrow75 3y ago
Perhaps this is fundamental attribution error: You don’t worry because it’s inevitable. You perceive them not worrying, but they aren’t scared enough? What if they also have the (intuitive, but not necessarily correct) sense that it’s inevitable?
ajross 3y ago
> I observe that people aren't scared enough to take action. They continue to dance around the issue in political euphoria. The changes to our lifestyle are happening too slowly to be effective. These are all reasonable observations, but they don't remotely substantiate "The chances of humanity surviving are incredibly slim, IMO." Just tone down the hyperbole. No serious informed science exists to predict human extinction, though lots of ecosystems and most large wild animals are at high risk.
- pk-protect-ai 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis Citation: The associated period of massive carbon release into the atmosphere has been estimated to have lasted from 20,000 to 50,000 years. The entire warm period lasted for about 200,000 years. Global temperatures increased by 5–8 °C.[21] The hot-models Sabine referred to are in range of 4.8 - 5.6 if I'm not mistaken...
  - ajross 3y ago
    So, to avoid engaging in a Gish Gallop on this issue, I'm going to ignore the specifics except to point out that neither of those links says anything about human extinction at all. It is reasonable to be concerned. But deploying easily-refuted hyperbole makes your (our!) cause MORE likely to be ignored as crackpot nonsense, not less.
    - pk-protect-ai 3y ago
      Do you really mean that humans can survive without ecosystem? Mass extinction events are causing chain reactions ... I do not care about the causes. I'm not a climate activist. I'm just an average guy that can't do a squat and tired to be afraid for my children's future. I just accepted the fact that humanity will destroy itself sooner or later. I do not see any point in expecting wonders.
slibhb 3y ago
Maybe people aren't scared because they disagree with your wild, unscientific assertion that "the chances of humanity surviving are incredibly slim, IMO"
- ejb999 3y ago
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Elextric 3y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_engineering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_engineering

bemusedthrow75 3y ago

Perhaps this is fundamental attribution error: You don’t worry because it’s inevitable. You perceive them not worrying, but they aren’t scared enough? What if they also have the (intuitive, but not necessarily correct) sense that it’s inevitable?

ajross 3y ago

> I observe that people aren't scared enough to take action. They continue to dance around the issue in political euphoria. The changes to our lifestyle are happening too slowly to be effective. These are all reasonable observations, but they don't remotely substantiate "The chances of humanity surviving are incredibly slim, IMO." Just tone down the hyperbole. No serious informed science exists to predict human extinction, though lots of ecosystems and most large wild animals are at high risk.

pk-protect-ai 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis Citation: The associated period of massive carbon release into the atmosphere has been estimated to have lasted from 20,000 to 50,000 years. The entire warm period lasted for about 200,000 years. Global temperatures increased by 5–8 °C.[21] The hot-models Sabine referred to are in range of 4.8 - 5.6 if I'm not mistaken...
- ajross 3y ago
  So, to avoid engaging in a Gish Gallop on this issue, I'm going to ignore the specifics except to point out that neither of those links says anything about human extinction at all. It is reasonable to be concerned. But deploying easily-refuted hyperbole makes your (our!) cause MORE likely to be ignored as crackpot nonsense, not less.
  - pk-protect-ai 3y ago
    Do you really mean that humans can survive without ecosystem? Mass extinction events are causing chain reactions ... I do not care about the causes. I'm not a climate activist. I'm just an average guy that can't do a squat and tired to be afraid for my children's future. I just accepted the fact that humanity will destroy itself sooner or later. I do not see any point in expecting wonders.

slibhb 3y ago

Maybe people aren't scared because they disagree with your wild, unscientific assertion that "the chances of humanity surviving are incredibly slim, IMO"

ejb999 3y ago
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