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Google pisses me off so much by constantly bloating more and more the "message" app. All I want is it just handling low tech SMS messages. Not uploading all ki

Google pisses me off so much by constantly bloating more and more the "message" app. All I want is it just handling low tech SMS messages. Not uploading all kinds of data about me to do "smart" things, not sending all my message through their servers or operator data servers to show stupid bubbles like iMessage. And more than all, a lightweight application. Now the app is at least 150MB, before Ai, just to send SMS...

beretguy 3y ago
> Google pisses me off so much by constantly bloating more and more the "message" app. This is one of the main reasons I use iPhone.
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- e44858 3y ago
  On Android you can easily replace the stock SMS app with a simpler one if you like. Not possible on iOS.
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  - thiht 3y ago
    Are you sure? I used Signal on iOS at some point and I think it handled SMS just fine, maybe I remember it incorrectly?
    - beretguy 3y ago
      From https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007321171-Can-I-send-SMS-MMS-with-Signal https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007321171-Ca... “iOS No. You can not send or receive insecure SMS/MMS with Signal on your iPhone […]”
      - e44858 3y ago
        The older version of that page explains it better: https://web.archive.org/web/20200220182425/https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007321171-Can-I-send-SMS-MMS-with-Signal- https://web.archive.org/web/20200220182425/https://support.s... "Signal Android can be configured as your default SMS/MMS app" "Apple does not allow other apps to replace the default SMS/messaging app"
kotaKat 3y ago
Well good news, because Google stripped out the super lightweight default Dialer and original Messages app in the AOSP codebase, probably as a way to steer vendors into Google Messages! And then from there, they dangled the RCS stick, then Jibe, and now look at the enshittifcation we have today :)

beretguy 3y ago

> Google pisses me off so much by constantly bloating more and more the "message" app. This is one of the main reasons I use iPhone.

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e44858 3y ago
On Android you can easily replace the stock SMS app with a simpler one if you like. Not possible on iOS.
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- thiht 3y ago
  Are you sure? I used Signal on iOS at some point and I think it handled SMS just fine, maybe I remember it incorrectly?
  - beretguy 3y ago
    From https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007321171-Can-I-send-SMS-MMS-with-Signal https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007321171-Ca... “iOS No. You can not send or receive insecure SMS/MMS with Signal on your iPhone […]”
    - e44858 3y ago
      The older version of that page explains it better: https://web.archive.org/web/20200220182425/https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007321171-Can-I-send-SMS-MMS-with-Signal- https://web.archive.org/web/20200220182425/https://support.s... "Signal Android can be configured as your default SMS/MMS app" "Apple does not allow other apps to replace the default SMS/messaging app"

kotaKat 3y ago

Well good news, because Google stripped out the super lightweight default Dialer and original Messages app in the AOSP codebase, probably as a way to steer vendors into Google Messages! And then from there, they dangled the RCS stick, then Jibe, and now look at the enshittifcation we have today :)