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> No, you couldn't. Not easily. This speaks to a lack of imagination on your part. Absolutely I could. Easily. Of course it would involve something outside of
by simondotau 3y ago
> No, you couldn't. Not easily.
This speaks to a lack of imagination on your part. Absolutely I could. Easily. Of course it would involve something outside of social norms, but that's the whole point. Go on, try to be imaginative.
> It's not arbitrary, it's the result of human evolution.
"It's not your kind of arbitrary, it's this other kind of arbitrary." Autism is a facet of human evolution too, by the way. In a sense, societal norms are nothing more than a tyranny of the majority.
> if you have trouble with the most basic human things
The most basic according to you. Somewhat ironically, society is already doing an excellent job of making some of these "basic human things" less relevant. Face-to-face interaction is less frequent. The "me too" movement is shifting the pendulum away from subtle social cues and towards arbitrary social rules. And the job market has never been better for people with the sort of hyper-rational mindset often correlated with ASD (if they can get past the job interview, which is increasingly automated too).
> It was to make a point in a specific context, and that point is valid.
It really isn't valid. Most mild to moderate autistic people have natural deficits which can be mitigated with targeted education. Some "normal" people have similar natural deficits with respect to sport, which can be mitigated with targeted education.
> Which again, is a ridiculous argument and stance
Which again, is an understandable reaction if you only had a superficial understanding of autism's extreme outlier cases. Here's an interesting little tidbit for you: there is a school in my city which has an enrolment exclusively comprised of ASD students. If nobody had told you this, you probably couldn't have guessed. The vast, vast majority of autistic people are really no different to the general population except for needing a bit of extra help in a few areas, but — much like the "normal" kind of social awkwardness or deficiency in physical coordination — can be overcome with empathy and education.
- PrimeMcFly 3y agoI'm going to bow out of the conversation at this point. At this point I'm arguing against feelings not facts, and I suspect you're being quite a bit contrarian also. So much of what you say is flat out wrong, and I don't have the energy for an extended is-too/is-not. I also suspect you're one of those "needs to have the last word types", which is also common in autistic people (despite supposedly being less emotional according to you), and, well, that's not going to be a productive discussion if that's your motivation or even part of it. Cheers.
- simondotau 3y ago> I'm going to bow out of the conversation at this point. Except you didn’t. You kept going. > I also suspect you're one of those "needs to have the last word types" I physically laughed at that. Framing your opponent in an ongoing discussion as “having the last word” is just a low effort way of deflecting away from substantive conversion, and suggests a lack of seriousness in your prior discourse. If you have anything useful to add, I’m happy to continue the discussion.