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It was a consensus of the people I talked to orch OR isn't taken seriously, and IIT is. I only hear of orch OR from people who watched the video online and hear
by graphe 3y ago
It was a consensus of the people I talked to orch OR isn't taken seriously, and IIT is. I only hear of orch OR from people who watched the video online and heard of the great toilet paper maker rodger Penrose.
- heckraiser 3y agoWhy sniping Penrose? Some scandal for which I am not aware? His explanations of manifold contours was an epiphany of enlightenment for me.
- graphe 3y agoSorry, it's just what people remember about him for some reason. That hes a Nobel prize winner who must be right about consciousness, sued a toilet paper company and won. Hard for the laymen to speak of his scientific work.
- eynsham 3y agoPenrose’s excursion into logic and philosophy by way of Gödel is nearly universally rejected in my experience and according to the standard reference work: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/goedel-incompleteness/#GdeArgAgaMec https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/goedel-incompleteness/#Gd...
- heckraiser 3y agoI would disagree on one hand as mechanisms can and shall inevitably outperform human thought capacity at some scale. And agree on another, the human mind is an efficient quantum computer (I know …) which uses constructive and destructive interference for some holographic rendering rather than a composition of linear conditional logic. Do not let the confines of human ignorance set the horizon for Truth! Allow that science is only a tool for undeceiving ourselves. Universal rejection sounds like dogma, not science.
- heckraiser 3y agoOrchestrated Objective Reduction is a terrible name for it.
- eynsham 3y agoPhilosophers take plenty of non-consensus positions seriously.