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Well the “experts” among us here, WaPo, and the NYT predicted Twitter would surely collapse after firing their SREs and admin that were crucial to keeping the s

Well the “experts” among us here, WaPo, and the NYT predicted Twitter would surely collapse after firing their SREs and admin that were crucial to keeping the servers running. Any day now Twitter will collapse and all of us will be saved. Surely

viraptor 3y ago
Here's a challenge: find an article from either wapo or nyt which actually predicted a sure collapse. And I mean a collapse as you said rather than issues with operations. (which they had many of since the takeover) I may have missed one if it exists, but I'd bet they didn't publish anything that certain.
- monero-xmr 3y ago
  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/media/twitter-users-confessions.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/media/twitter-us... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/technology/twitter-glitches-features.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/technology/twitter-glitch... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/opinion/elon-musk-twitter-chaos.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/opinion/elon-musk-twitter...
  - jph00 3y ago
    None of these 3 articles "predict a sure collapse". One of them reports on what twitter users were saying, one reports on technical problems occurring at that time, and one is an opinion piece titled "Elon Musk Has No Idea What He’s Doing at Twitter" (but which doesn't predict a collapse AFAICT).
  - crotchfire 3y ago
    Zing.
  - viraptor 3y ago
    The first link is reporting about users panicking and one of the few comments from NYT itself is "Though there are no official signs that Twitter is going anywhere,...". The second documents actual issues and makes no predictions. Even the third one which is just an opinion piece about how bad of a decision maker Elon is doesn't come close to suggesting a collapse. Please read the actual articles.
    - monero-xmr 3y ago
      For the “Newspaper of Record” to report such fantastical news stories, as if anecdotal reports and opinions are real news, shows the obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse. Why write such articles at all? It’s “The NYT never said it would collapse, they just reported numerous articles implying it MIGHT collapse and everyone says it will!” OK!
      - viraptor 3y ago
        Knowing what many people believe is itself useful, especially if you annotate it with "there are no signs that this is actually going to happen". > obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse. Yet, you can't show me an article that says this. Is this left wing media obsession, or is this what you believe about NYT? Twitter was a hot topic and they reported on what's happening there. It's not like there were many positive things to say since the takeover. There are similar reports of positive things people said https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/technology/musk-twitter-supporters.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/technology/musk-twitter-s... so it's not like only one side is presented.
        monero-xmr 3y ago
        Sure sure, down the memory hole. No one said Twitter would collapse after firing 7500 people. Everyone assumed it would be fine. All of these articles were simply conjecture, just something to speculate. When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative.
        maxbond 3y ago
        > When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative. The sources you presented failed to substantiate your argument, and instead of looking for different ones or considering you might be mistaken, you've doubled down. Are you quite sure you are willing to take a hard look at uncomfortable facts and hazard having your mind changed?
  - nateglims 3y ago
    Other than a quote from a political activist, these don't seem that certain about a total collapse or even speculate it
djur 3y ago
They just had a very high-profile event involving deepfake porn of one of the world's most popular musical artists. They appear to have belatedly responded to this by shutting down all searches of that famous artist's name. This does not suggest an organization that has the capacity to quickly or effectively manage the systems they are running.

viraptor 3y ago

Here's a challenge: find an article from either wapo or nyt which actually predicted a sure collapse. And I mean a collapse as you said rather than issues with operations. (which they had many of since the takeover) I may have missed one if it exists, but I'd bet they didn't publish anything that certain.

monero-xmr 3y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/media/twitter-users-confessions.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/media/twitter-us... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/technology/twitter-glitches-features.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/technology/twitter-glitch... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/opinion/elon-musk-twitter-chaos.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/opinion/elon-musk-twitter...
- jph00 3y ago
  None of these 3 articles "predict a sure collapse". One of them reports on what twitter users were saying, one reports on technical problems occurring at that time, and one is an opinion piece titled "Elon Musk Has No Idea What He’s Doing at Twitter" (but which doesn't predict a collapse AFAICT).
- crotchfire 3y ago
  Zing.
- viraptor 3y ago
  The first link is reporting about users panicking and one of the few comments from NYT itself is "Though there are no official signs that Twitter is going anywhere,...". The second documents actual issues and makes no predictions. Even the third one which is just an opinion piece about how bad of a decision maker Elon is doesn't come close to suggesting a collapse. Please read the actual articles.
  - monero-xmr 3y ago
    For the “Newspaper of Record” to report such fantastical news stories, as if anecdotal reports and opinions are real news, shows the obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse. Why write such articles at all? It’s “The NYT never said it would collapse, they just reported numerous articles implying it MIGHT collapse and everyone says it will!” OK!
    - viraptor 3y ago
      Knowing what many people believe is itself useful, especially if you annotate it with "there are no signs that this is actually going to happen". > obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse. Yet, you can't show me an article that says this. Is this left wing media obsession, or is this what you believe about NYT? Twitter was a hot topic and they reported on what's happening there. It's not like there were many positive things to say since the takeover. There are similar reports of positive things people said https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/technology/musk-twitter-supporters.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/technology/musk-twitter-s... so it's not like only one side is presented.
      - monero-xmr 3y ago
        Sure sure, down the memory hole. No one said Twitter would collapse after firing 7500 people. Everyone assumed it would be fine. All of these articles were simply conjecture, just something to speculate. When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative.
        maxbond 3y ago
        > When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative. The sources you presented failed to substantiate your argument, and instead of looking for different ones or considering you might be mistaken, you've doubled down. Are you quite sure you are willing to take a hard look at uncomfortable facts and hazard having your mind changed?
- nateglims 3y ago
  Other than a quote from a political activist, these don't seem that certain about a total collapse or even speculate it

djur 3y ago

They just had a very high-profile event involving deepfake porn of one of the world's most popular musical artists. They appear to have belatedly responded to this by shutting down all searches of that famous artist's name. This does not suggest an organization that has the capacity to quickly or effectively manage the systems they are running.