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This is so ridiculous, the science points to the fact that the claim that it causes cancer is not true... I really don't like the american justice system. We l

This is so ridiculous, the science points to the fact that the claim that it causes cancer is not true... I really don't like the american justice system. We literally live next to coal plants that put chemicals in the air 24/7 that are certainly certainly causing cancer for people later... You can find studies showing certain meats are correlated with cancer, can we sue the grocery stores?

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viraptor 3y ago
> You can find studies showing certain meats are correlated with cancer, can we sue the grocery stores? When a grocery store starts to take over the production chain for both the meat and the process and chemicals involved and pushing their products globally as a solution, and being litigious to a stupid degree, and ... Then yeah, I hope we can sue the grocery store involved. (As long as the studies actually hold up and that specific store is causing health problems others aren't)
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
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Analemma_ 3y ago
I mean I would also support levying multi-billion dollar fines against coal plants. Frankly in terms of the negative externalities they have caused they probably owe that many times over.
- ryukoposting 3y ago
  The American coal industry employs less than 50,000 people. For $5B, you could close every coal plant, give every single person a $100,000 severance package and tell them to go find a job elsewhere.
  - scotty79 3y ago
    This should probably be done.
gopher_space 3y ago
> This is so ridiculous, the science points to the fact that the claim that it causes cancer is not true. I just Kagi'd it and UW says non-hodgkins up by 40% with roundup exposure. I guess the question would be "whose science".
- darth_avocado 3y ago
  I don’t understand why this comment is downvoted. The studies do show a link between non Hodgkin’s lymphoma and roundup. And if you want to dispute the studies, fine. But Monsanto settled for $10B on the round up lawsuits. That should tell you something.
  - 0ckpuppet 3y ago
    you don't suspect monsanto would pay to have negative comments downvoted in every corner of the internet?
    - zadokshi 3y ago
      We already know for a fact that the pharmaceutical companies have teams to manipulate social media through bot accounts. I don’t know why Beyer/Monsanto would be any different.
      - jrmg 3y ago
        How do we know this?
        jacquesm 3y ago
        Receipts, mostly.
  - refurb 3y ago
    Companies settle all the time without being guilty. If it’s cheaper to just settle than fight it out, you settle.
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- EasyMark 3y ago
  Yes, this is basically lawyers knowing that American juries have all heard about round up and cancer, generally don't have a good understanding of statistics or science in general, and usually root for the little guy. Bring those together and you got yourself a nice fat billion dollar verdict of which your law firm will get 20-30% of
shellfishgene 3y ago
As im my comment above, alcohol is the big one to compare to. There are statistics like "alcohol consumption accounts for approximately 6% of all cancers diagnosed in the US" [1], and absolutely no serious scientist or doctor doubts that it's a strong carcinogen. I really wonder why the lawyers that orchestrated the roudup cases never go after the breweries etc. I guess because most people like alcohol and ignore the health effects, there's just no chance to win a jury trial? And that's with alcohol's addiction and host of other health problems, too. Or is there some law that does not allow companies for causing health damage due to alcohol? [1] https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/diet-physical-activity/alcohol-use-and-cancer.html https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/diet-physical-...
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scotty79 3y ago
> put chemicals in the air 24/7 That is super funny to me. That people obsess so much about food while they are living in the city and various poisons have direct contact with their blood on their every breath.

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viraptor 3y ago

> You can find studies showing certain meats are correlated with cancer, can we sue the grocery stores? When a grocery store starts to take over the production chain for both the meat and the process and chemicals involved and pushing their products globally as a solution, and being litigious to a stupid degree, and ... Then yeah, I hope we can sue the grocery store involved. (As long as the studies actually hold up and that specific store is causing health problems others aren't)

s1artibartfast 3y ago
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- dooopdoop 3y ago
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Analemma_ 3y ago

I mean I would also support levying multi-billion dollar fines against coal plants. Frankly in terms of the negative externalities they have caused they probably owe that many times over.

ryukoposting 3y ago
The American coal industry employs less than 50,000 people. For $5B, you could close every coal plant, give every single person a $100,000 severance package and tell them to go find a job elsewhere.
- scotty79 3y ago
  This should probably be done.

gopher_space 3y ago

> This is so ridiculous, the science points to the fact that the claim that it causes cancer is not true. I just Kagi'd it and UW says non-hodgkins up by 40% with roundup exposure. I guess the question would be "whose science".

darth_avocado 3y ago
I don’t understand why this comment is downvoted. The studies do show a link between non Hodgkin’s lymphoma and roundup. And if you want to dispute the studies, fine. But Monsanto settled for $10B on the round up lawsuits. That should tell you something.
- 0ckpuppet 3y ago
  you don't suspect monsanto would pay to have negative comments downvoted in every corner of the internet?
  - zadokshi 3y ago
    We already know for a fact that the pharmaceutical companies have teams to manipulate social media through bot accounts. I don’t know why Beyer/Monsanto would be any different.
    - jrmg 3y ago
      How do we know this?
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        Receipts, mostly.
- refurb 3y ago
  Companies settle all the time without being guilty. If it’s cheaper to just settle than fight it out, you settle.

refurb 3y ago

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EasyMark 3y ago
Yes, this is basically lawyers knowing that American juries have all heard about round up and cancer, generally don't have a good understanding of statistics or science in general, and usually root for the little guy. Bring those together and you got yourself a nice fat billion dollar verdict of which your law firm will get 20-30% of

shellfishgene 3y ago

As im my comment above, alcohol is the big one to compare to. There are statistics like "alcohol consumption accounts for approximately 6% of all cancers diagnosed in the US" [1], and absolutely no serious scientist or doctor doubts that it's a strong carcinogen. I really wonder why the lawyers that orchestrated the roudup cases never go after the breweries etc. I guess because most people like alcohol and ignore the health effects, there's just no chance to win a jury trial? And that's with alcohol's addiction and host of other health problems, too. Or is there some law that does not allow companies for causing health damage due to alcohol? [1] https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/diet-physical-activity/alcohol-use-and-cancer.html https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/diet-physical-...

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scotty79 3y ago

> put chemicals in the air 24/7 That is super funny to me. That people obsess so much about food while they are living in the city and various poisons have direct contact with their blood on their every breath.