the problem with this conversation is that it risks never landing anywhere; or landing differently depending on who is having the conversation. In order to be s

the problem with this conversation is that it risks never landing anywhere; or landing differently depending on who is having the conversation. In order to be sure that Someone is accountable, we need an agreed framework for ascribing accountability. I think the way this might work is that the landfill is accountable, and the cost of accountability is passed on to users; that China is accountable for pollution from its manufacturing, and the cost of that accountability is passed on to consumers. The consumer only has a binary choice, (with cost a factor in that choice) whereas the producer can be incentivised to implement efficiency measures, alternative technologies, etc.